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Don't mention 20mph to me.

Just don't. ](*,)

Is it a similar set up in Sussex?

Skull wrote:

Is it a similar set up in Sussex?

Oh yes, the Greens have well and truly f***ed the City, but thankfully the other two parties are getting together to stop the madness carrying on.

However at present there is no Home Office approved gun that can test for speeds of less than 30mph. So everyone ignores it.

However at present there is no Home Office approved gun that can test for speeds of less than 30mph. So everyone ignores it.

Lesley Hinds said she consulted the trade :shock:

No she didn't :shock:

Driving around in 2nd gear isn't going to be much fun especially those who have manual gearboxes, it's going to also increase fuel usage, costing us motorists more money.

Driving at twenty will increase the temptation for drivers to use their phones etc

Slowing the movement of traffic in a small city centre such as Edinburgh is going to increase congestion.

Is it now worth it to a low mileage city centre car owner to actually own a car? No. (We could benefit)

A policeman on STV last night said they can't enforce it due to lack of man power.

All in its a stupid idea that's not a green idea, it won't stop accidents, how many accidents are caused by slow drivers and drivers not paying attention, 20 zones are unworkable.

My guessing is it'll be policed by dozens of new Speed cameras springing up all over the place..Kerching.

bloodnock wrote:

My guessing is it'll be policed by dozens of new Speed cameras springing up all over the place..Kerching.

Sussex has pointed out that the current speed cameras do not work at 20 MPH.

Author:	bloodnock [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:02 pm ]
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Looks like you Chaps will need to Work 50% percent longer just to cover the same amount of road soon just to ensure Bikes, Bipeds and Snails hauling Rickshaws become the fastest mode of travel through the streets of the capital. City of Edinburgh council plans widespread 20mph zones "It is hoped reduced speeds will encourage journeys on foot or by bike A speed limit of 20mph covering most streets in Edinburgh could be introduced by the city council by 2017. Councillors on the Transport Committee have given their backing to a consultation on the proposal. The scheme is likely to apply to most residential, shopping and city centre areas. Through routes are expected to retain a 30mph limit. A motoring organisation has said it worries the plan will amount to no more than "putting up more signs". Neil Greig of the IAM Motoring Trust told BBC Scotland: "Our main reservation is about the blanket approach but it's also about the fact that we need to do a lot more in Edinburgh. "We need to have segregated cycling facilities, shared space. That involves a lot more investment in infrastructure. "This is just really about putting up more signs. We need to do a lot more than that in Edinburgh to actually encourage people out of their cars." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-25732147

Author:	Skull [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:11 pm ]
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This is a great idea for the cyclist. I remember when cns used to knock me off my bike. Saying that, I was riding like a maniac but that's not the point. Oh and it's a pity about your earnings as a taxi driver, having to haul your ass around at 20mph. Not Good. You might be better off buying a Rickshaw. I bet there will be an explosion in man powered transport.

Author:	Sussex [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:25 pm ]
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Don't mention 20mph to me. Just don't.

Author:	Skull [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:49 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Don't mention 20mph to me. Just don't. To be honest, I think this is about finding ways to force people to use the trams. You can bet your boots whatever restrictions are put in place, you won't be able to get near that tram route in a taxi. Is it a similar set up in Sussex?

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:54 am ]
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Skull wrote: Is it a similar set up in Sussex? Oh yes, the Greens have well and truly f***ed the City, but thankfully the other two parties are getting together to stop the madness carrying on. However at present there is no Home Office approved gun that can test for speeds of less than 30mph. So everyone ignores it.

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Author:	Skull [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:08 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Skull wrote: Is it a similar set up in Sussex? Oh yes, the Greens have well and truly f***ed the City, but thankfully the other two parties are getting together to stop the madness carrying on. However at present there is no Home Office approved gun that can test for speeds of less than 30mph. So everyone ignores it. I'm sure they won't make the same mistakes in Edinburgh.

Author:	scoter [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:54 pm ]
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This seems to be upon us soon. Council say they carried out a consultation. Who did they ask. Not me

Author:	bloodnock [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:31 am ]
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Those Edinburgh councillors simply hate all things Car, Van or truck, they do however love to subjugate the very people that voted such a bunch of useless pseudo greenies into their Guilded council cages in the first place. How you guys in Edinburgh continue puttiing up with or vote for such a bunch of egotistical councillors Iv'e no Idea..but you do so time after time after time..

Author:	grandad [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:20 am ]
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bloodnock wrote: shared space. They are trying this in Leicester at the moment.

Author:	grandad [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:24 am ]
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Sussex wrote: However at present there is no Home Office approved gun that can test for speeds of less than 30mph. So everyone ignores it. If that is the case, there was no point in the limit in the first place. Did they just think everyone would obey the signs? We have 20 MPH limits outside all of our schools. However at the times that the kids are going into or leaving the schools it is not possible to drive any faster than a crawl.

Author:	Private Reggie [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:03 pm ]
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Lesley Hinds said she consulted the trade No she didn't Driving around in 2nd gear isn't going to be much fun especially those who have manual gearboxes, it's going to also increase fuel usage, costing us motorists more money. Driving at twenty will increase the temptation for drivers to use their phones etc Slowing the movement of traffic in a small city centre such as Edinburgh is going to increase congestion. Is it now worth it to a low mileage city centre car owner to actually own a car? No. (We could benefit) A policeman on STV last night said they can't enforce it due to lack of man power. All in its a stupid idea that's not a green idea, it won't stop accidents, how many accidents are caused by slow drivers and drivers not paying attention, 20 zones are unworkable.

Author:	bloodnock [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:10 pm ]
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Private Reggie wrote: Lesley Hinds said she consulted the trade No she didn't Driving around in 2nd gear isn't going to be much fun especially those who have manual gearboxes, it's going to also increase fuel usage, costing us motorists more money. Driving at twenty will increase the temptation for drivers to use their phones etc Slowing the movement of traffic in a small city centre such as Edinburgh is going to increase congestion. Is it now worth it to a low mileage city centre car owner to actually own a car? No. (We could benefit) A policeman on STV last night said they can't enforce it due to lack of man power. All in its a stupid idea that's not a green idea, it won't stop accidents, how many accidents are caused by slow drivers and drivers not paying attention, 20 zones are unworkable. My guessing is it'll be policed by dozens of new Speed cameras springing up all over the place..Kerching. Then after they ditch free parking on sundays as well even more Kerching...and the first thing they'll do with all that extra revenue is give themselves a performance based pay rise..KERCHINNNNNNNNNGGGG!!

Author:	grandad [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:13 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: My guessing is it'll be policed by dozens of new Speed cameras springing up all over the place..Kerching. Sussex has pointed out that the current speed cameras do not work at 20 MPH.

Author:	bloodnock [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:22 pm ]
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grandad wrote: bloodnock wrote: My guessing is it'll be policed by dozens of new Speed cameras springing up all over the place..Kerching. Sussex has pointed out that the current speed cameras do not work at 20 MPH. Who says they would use current Cameras..the Technology could all change tomorrow.

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Author:	Private Reggie [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:14 pm ]
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If it's 20, as far as a cabbie is concerned then 20 it is, not willing to lose ones licence an aw that, it seems it's easier to take a chance of speeding on some 30 roads than it will be on a new 20 road, it'll become more obvious to the eye, increasing the chance of getting pulled, outwith Rush hour it's going to be a crawl, no good to punters in a hurry, more threat to the trade than Uber