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WE PUT YOU IN CONTROL

There’s no operator, no preferential dispatches. Rider pick up requests simply go to the closest available driver. When you finish each trip, you’ll clearly see the price charged to the rider, and you’ll be able to review your journeys and pay on your private Uber dashboard at any time.

Quoted from their advert

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I know the laws, but hasn't technology overtaken everything while the laws and us are still in a time warp

Uber have Operators licences in both London and Manchester

andycable wrote:

But Uber are not taking the bookings, the drivers are and unless they have their own operators license they can't accept bookings direct from customers.

Über think they're above the law, do as they please until authorities take them to court.

TFL are considering their position. FFs. :roll:

Apparently Addison Lee are losing control over some of their drivers, especially on nights when this rip off surge pricing comes in.

As much as I dislike Griffin, the Carlyle group and their pretend taxi empire, I don't think the idea of 70'000 minicabs doing as they please without any official booking centre will help me or the traveling London public one bit.

grandad wrote:

andycable wrote:

But Uber are not taking the bookings, the drivers are and unless they have their own operators license they can't accept bookings direct from customers.

Why is it the driver that is taking the booking and not Uber?

Author:	andycable [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:32 am ]
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http://www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/uber-is-seeking-top-manchester-private-hire-drivers/1046527468

Author:	captain cab [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:00 pm ]
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who's the operator?

Author:	andycable [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:38 pm ]
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Quoted from their advert Quote: WE PUT YOU IN CONTROL There’s no operator, no preferential dispatches. Rider pick up requests simply go to the closest available driver. When you finish each trip, you’ll clearly see the price charged to the rider, and you’ll be able to review your journeys and pay on your private Uber dashboard at any time.

Author:	Sussex [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:15 pm ]
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andycable wrote: Quoted from their advert Quote: WE PUT YOU IN CONTROL There’s no operator, no preferential dispatches. Rider pick up requests simply go to the closest available driver. When you finish each trip, you’ll clearly see the price charged to the rider, and you’ll be able to review your journeys and pay on your private Uber dashboard at any time. About 0.0% legal. So they should thrive up there.

Author:	GBC [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:19 pm ]
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Über think they're above the law, do as they please until authorities take them to court. TFL are considering their position. FFs. Apparently Addison Lee are losing control over some of their drivers, especially on nights when this rip off surge pricing comes in. As much as I dislike Griffin, the Carlyle group and their pretend taxi empire, I don't think the idea of 70'000 minicabs doing as they please without any official booking centre will help me or the traveling London public one bit.

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Author:	skippy41 [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:50 am ]
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I know the laws, but hasn't technology overtaken everything while the laws and us are still in a time warp

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:39 am ]
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skippy41 wrote: I know the laws, but hasn't technology overtaken everything while the laws and us are still in a time warp the person accepting the booking needs to be licensed - otherwise say goodbye to your widescreen when you go on holiday

Author:	silvercab [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:46 am ]
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Uber have Operators licences in both London and Manchester

Author:	grandad [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:37 am ]
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silvercab wrote: Uber have Operators licences in both London and Manchester Uber can have as many operators licenses as they like but if the contact is between the customer and the driver and not through Uber, then the driver is accepting the booking and requires an operators license.

Author:	andycable [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:14 am ]
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Author:	grandad [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:09 am ]
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andycable wrote: But Uber are not taking the bookings, the drivers are and unless they have their own operators license they can't accept bookings direct from customers.

Author:	silvercab [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:15 pm ]
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grandad wrote: andycable wrote: But Uber are not taking the bookings, the drivers are and unless they have their own operators license they can't accept bookings direct from customers. Why is it the driver that is taking the booking and not Uber?

Author:	trotskys twin [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:27 pm ]
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GBC wrote: Über think they're above the law, do as they please until authorities take them to court. TFL are considering their position. FFs. Apparently Addison Lee are losing control over some of their drivers, especially on nights when this rip off surge pricing comes in. As much as I dislike Griffin, the Carlyle group and their pretend taxi empire, I don't think the idea of 70'000 minicabs doing as they please without any official booking centre will help me or the traveling London public one bit. Looks good to me 70000 PH unrestricted by the Likes of Addy Lee, Greentomato,Mach 1, West One, and other assorted scum......whizzo surge pricing ...........................yipee.............hammer the punters why not .................its called CAPITALISM ............you want it... well we will have it ........yer love it And of course once Uber get a large section of the Trade and theyve bankrupted large numbers of Companies, they themselves become extremely vulnerable to Organised Driver actions BRING IT ON UBER MUCH EASIER TO FEKK UP ONE OUTFIT THAN 3000

Author:	toots [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:51 pm ]
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Cabbies threaten to abandon Uber over changes February 3, 2014 Uber’s taxi-hailing service has become popular for its convenience to smartphone users. But many taxi drivers working with the company say they’re unhappy with new fees that the company is deducting from their paychecks, and discourteous treatment by Uber staff. Once a darling of tech-savvy cab riders and taxi drivers looking for supplemental income, technology company Uber now faces mounting anger from some of those same drivers. The popular taxi-hailing service announced to cabbies via e-mail last week that, effective immediately, it was amending their contracts to include a $10 weekly charge for the data plan of the iPhones that the company issues them. The phones are currently mandatory for drivers that sign up with the service. “Connecting our partners with hundreds of riders each week does come with a cost,” the email states. “Since we launched in 2012, Uber has paid $10/week for the cost of data plan for every Chicago TAXI partner on our system, but at this time, this subsidy must end in order to encourage responsible iPhone use and prevent waste.” The message notes that the $10 deduction from drivers’ statements will begin this week, and that this policy has already been in effect since October for drivers in the company’s livery service, UberBLACK. “I’m going to return the phone,” said Mohan Paudel, a Chicago cab driver who has used Uber for more than a year. Paudel and several other taxi drivers say that $10 per week is an unreasonably high charge in a business where the margins are already miniscule. Many are now thinking of dropping the service altogether, unhappy with the company’s sudden, unilateral approach to changing the terms of their agreements. Uber car service app makes winners and losers “I’m definitely considering stopping working with Uber,” said Peter Enger, a longtime Chicago taxi driver and Secretary for the United Taxi Drivers Community Council, a grassroots organization that works on labor issues in the industry. “I know a lot of cab drivers have gotten kind of fed up with their corporate practices. They’re now no longer open for business, you cannot just go and consult with them except by appointment,” he added. Enger and others complain that the company is difficult to reach with questions, and that often staff are discourteous when they respond to questions. Andrew MacDonald, Uber's Midwest Regional General Manager, did not respond to questions from WBEZ about the change in policies, and did not follow up on a request for an interview. But in the e-mail to taxi drivers, the company argues that the new charge for the data plan is reasonable because the service has allowed drivers to take home greater pay. “We understand that every cent counts when it comes to your hard earned dollars that need to be spent on your food, housing, education, and your families,” it states. “Did you know that you earn as much as 7.5% more per Uber request compared to other fares paid via credit card?” “But we’re not making more money because we have to spend more time for the Uber customers,” countered Paudel, “because we have to go there and wait for two minutes, maybe sometimes ten minutes, and get the fare, which is— we’re wasting a lot of time on that, too.” Other drivers agree that they typically have to wait longer when they arrive at a pickup location for customers that summon them through the Uber app. They also say they often waste time getting to Uber calls, only to have them cancelled at or before arrival. They say that Uber promises to pay them $5 for cancelled fares, but they rarely see that payment. Paudel says the new $10 charge, on top of these inconveniences, will add up to less weekly revenue than if he simply dropped Uber altogether. The Uber notification also stated that drivers will be charged the weekly amount for the data plan regardless of whether they turn on the Uber device to take any calls in a week. Paudel said that’s not fair if he decided to take a week off. He suggested that Uber instead increase the percentage that it takes from taxi drivers’ fares, currently 2.5 percent of the metered amount. Still, it’s not clear that taxi drivers abandoning the service would do much harm to the company. Since launching its taxi service in April 2012, the company also introduced its UberX ridesharing service, which matches passengers with non-taxi drivers. Many in the taxi industry fear that ridesharing services such as UberX, and competitors Lyft and Sidecar, directly threaten their business. Last week, Uber announced that it was slashing its UberX fares—already lower than taxi meter rates—by 15 percent. The move follows accusations that the company engaged in price gouging on New Years Eve and in recent days with particularly inclement weather. UberX employs a surge pricing model when demand for rides peaks. http://www.wbez.org/news/cabbies-threat ... ges-109625

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Author:	grandad [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:09 pm ]
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silvercab wrote: grandad wrote: andycable wrote: But Uber are not taking the bookings, the drivers are and unless they have their own operators license they can't accept bookings direct from customers. Why is it the driver that is taking the booking and not Uber? Because the customer is contacting the driver and not the operator. The operator will not have any records of the booking.