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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:23 am 
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‘New rules for Dundee taxis are ludicrous’


Dundee taxi drivers have hit out at “dog’s dinner” health and safety rules that ban everyday items from being stored inside cabs.

Passengers must store everything from walking sticks to groceries in the boots of taxis, whereas before they had been able to keep all their belongings with them.

The requirement is part of new regulations that city drivers are being trained up in. Willie Lees, secretary of the GMB Dundee WAV (wheelchair-accessible vehicles) Taxi Branch, said: “It’s just a complete dog’s dinner.

“If you are infirm and you need a walking stick, how are you supposed to get out the car if yours is not with you? We aren’t allowed to help them out because we’re not allowed to touch them.”

Willie says there are more than 20 different types of taxi cab in Dundee, all with different layouts, meaning an across-the-board rule regarding the storage of passenger goods isn’t always practical.

He says that in wheelchair-accessible taxi cabs there is often no boot or a boot not big enough to store shopping bags.

There are also changes to the way that children are looked after in taxis.

Willie said: “There are something like 22 different types of taxi cab in Dundee, so there’s a lot of contradiction in what they are teaching drivers. The drivers are responsible for children under the age of 14. Whether the purpose-built taxis are included in this, I don’t know. Nobody knows exactly what’s going on here.”

Union chiefs also claim only a small proportion of drivers in Dundee have undertaken the course to learn the new guidelines and, while new drivers will be required to take it, the course isn’t mandatory for current drivers.

Another city taxi driver, who did not want to be named, said: “Cans of soup and tins of beans, they’re basically saying you’re not allowed to have them in a taxi.

“It’s a situation where before you get your own taxi you have to sit this test and pass it. It’s ludicrous.”

A Dundee City Council spokesman said: “The licensing committee were aware the GMB had raised issues about the wheelchair section of the training.

“That is why the committee held an investigation into that part of the course and were satisfied it represented an appropriate level of training.

“The course has to be completed by taxi drivers to allow them to renew their licence in May 2017.

“Any concerns can be raised by the taxi trade through the taxi liaison group.”

http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... s-1.566580

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:52 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
“If you are infirm and you need a walking stick, how are you supposed to get out the car if yours is not with you? We aren’t allowed to help them out because we’re not allowed to touch them.”
I'm sure you're allowed to get off your backside, get it out of the boot and hand it to them. :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:51 am 
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Cans of soup and tins of beans, they’re basically saying you’re not allowed to have them in a taxi


I don't see a problem with putting items in the boot, unless of course you're lazy lard ass and you don't want to move. I guess they've been given simple advice and taken it out of proportion for a change :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:07 pm 
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It creates another area of conflict between driver and passenger. Driver says shopping must go in boot, passenger says they don't want it in boot, driver says they're not taking them, passenger complains they don't like their attitude - never going to use your firm again etc.

It's easy to see how such a small matter could escalate, chuck in a measure of alcohol/drugs and a driver could get thumped. All because they wouldn't let them place a bag of shopping in the footwell.


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Of course this rule would mean that you would have to put a wheelchair in the boot, or refuse to carry, if this rule came into force. If a walking stick in the passenger compartment was deemed to be "dangerous" a wheelchair would be lethal. Health and safety, eh?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:14 am 
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Of course this rule would mean that you would have to put a wheelchair in the boot, or refuse to carry, if this rule came into force. If a walking stick in the passenger compartment was deemed to be "dangerous" a wheelchair would be lethal. Health and safety, eh?

Wheelchairs must be securely held in place. :roll:

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jimbo wrote:
Of course this rule would mean that you would have to put a wheelchair in the boot, or refuse to carry, if this rule came into force. If a walking stick in the passenger compartment was deemed to be "dangerous" a wheelchair would be lethal. Health and safety, eh?

Wheelchairs must be securely held in place. :roll:


Yes they must, but in an accident, would the restraints be sufficient to prevent injury?

Might not the batteries become displaced and cause catastrophic damage?

Our council are considering similar rules, whereby "luggage must be carried in a separate, secure compartment". Now where might this compartment be located in a TX, or an E7 or similar WAV?

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