Is it asking too much for anyone in this country to have a good knowledge of English?
FFS.
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Row over English language proviso |
Row over English language proviso for Leeds taxi operators SHOULD owners of taxi licences be forced to learn English, even if they will never drive the vehicle and will only rent it out for others to drive? That question has been raised in relation to a Leeds City Council taxi policy which requires individual owners of hackney carriage licences to have a level of English. Unions and hackney carriage companies have objected, believing this could discriminate over wives and family members who inherit licences if an owner passes away, as the weekly rent could be their only means of income. A meeting of the council’s licencing committee heard the core issue was “responsibilty and accountability”. However it was also argued that if the person isn’t actually driving, there is no issue of public safety. It has now been proposed that the English language requirement for widows and people inheriting licences is relaxed, with a longer lead-in time to allow them to learn English if they don’t speak it, or to appoint a representative. However it was also been suggested the English comprehension requirement be removed entirely in respect of hackney carriage proprietors. Labour councillor Brian Selby said he would like to keep the current English requirement in place. He said: “It has wider implications if we start changing our policy. We do need taxi firms that are well run, and that means having a command of English.” Tory colleague Gerald Wilkinson added: “I feel certain that the English test is not like a university degree. If they sign it over, people will have time to learn English.” The meeting was told that “we should be trying to ensure people aspire to [speak] English, not be told not to bother”. However it was pointed out more than 50 per cent of the proprietors and drivers of Leeds’s 500-plus taxi licences are of Asian origin, and a growing number are from European countries. Councillor Asghar Khan said it was important to differentiate between the driver and the licence owner. He said: “If it’s drivers, then yes, because they are a front line person.” He said it could be ensured licence owners bear all costs of translating documents relating to the business. The proposals will be debated again at a future meeting before eventually being put before the council’s cabinet. source: http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... -1-6833387 |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
Is it asking too much for anyone in this country to have a good knowledge of English? FFS.
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
So what if the proprietor is contacted in respect of a driver complaint or query by licensing? Do licensing have to provide an interpreter? Our gaff, our rules, don't like it? feck off. |
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| Author: | roythebus [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
How could the holder of the licence, whether proprietor or driver, be expected to comply with the law if they can't read what the law actually is? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
roythebus wrote: How could the holder of the licence, whether proprietor or driver, be expected to comply with the law if they can't read what the law actually is? doesn't stop pikeys 
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
captain cab wrote: roythebus wrote: How could the holder of the licence, whether proprietor or driver, be expected to comply with the law if they can't read what the law actually is? doesn't stop pikeys Do pikeys comply with the law? |
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| Author: | ace of spades [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
Sussex wrote: Is it asking too much for anyone in this country to have a good knowledge of English? FFS. I agree 100%. I used to do door to door sales and sometimes we'd encounter streets where only about 2 or 3 households spoke English well enough to have a proper conversation
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
ace of spades wrote: Sussex wrote: Is it asking too much for anyone in this country to have a good knowledge of English? FFS. I agree 100%. I used to do door to door sales and sometimes we'd encounter streets where only about 2 or 3 households spoke English well enough to have a proper conversation They were making it up so that you would leave them alone.
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
Easy solution Licenses can only be used by the person working ie DRIVING you kick the bucket the license returns to the LA  all trading in licenses should be stopped 
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| Author: | ace of spades [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
grandad wrote: ace of spades wrote: Sussex wrote: Is it asking too much for anyone in this country to have a good knowledge of English? FFS. I agree 100%. I used to do door to door sales and sometimes we'd encounter streets where only about 2 or 3 households spoke English well enough to have a proper conversation They were making it up so that you would leave them alone. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
Q1 what do you call a black pudding, ecky thump q2 what words do you use when surprised, eeee by eck |
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| Author: | toots [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
skippy41 wrote: Q1 what do you call a black pudding, ecky thump q2 what words do you use when surprised, eeee by eck Are you on drugs? |
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| Author: | roythebus [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
apparently they don't talk English in Skippy's part of the world. WTF is "ecky thump"?? 
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| Author: | grandad [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
roythebus wrote: apparently they don't talk English in Skippy's part of the world. WTF is "ecky thump"?? Didn't you watch the Goodies in the 70's? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJxGi8bizEg |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Row over English language proviso |
They should all Learn English before they are allowed to settle or work In England or Britain, the only exception being is if they are Gaelic or Welsh speakers born in the UK...and even they speak English as a Second Language. |
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