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Author:  skippy41 [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  First Bus wins wheelchair court judgement
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-30376446

Doug Paulley, 36, was denied access to a First bus to Leeds when a woman with a pushchair refused to move
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Bus companies are not required by law to force parents with buggies to make way for wheelchair users in designated bays on vehicles, senior judges ruled.

First Bus appealed against a court ruling, won by a disabled man from West Yorkshire, that the firm's wheelchair policy was discriminatory.

Doug Paulley, 36, was denied access to a First bus to Leeds when a woman with a pushchair refused to move.

The court of Appeal overturned a judgement made at Leeds County Court.

'Request not require'

Mr Paulley attempted to board the bus in Wetherby to visit his parents in Leeds in February 2012.

But he was told to wait for another when the woman with the pushchair refused to move because her baby was asleep.

First's policy was one of "requesting but not requiring" non-disabled travellers, including those with babies and pushchairs, to vacate space needed by a wheelchair user.

A judge at Leeds County Court had said in September that was in breach of the Equality Act 2010.

Mr Paulley was awarded £5,500 damages.
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:15 pm ]
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wheelchair users can go figgy
Author:  MR T [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:02 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
wheelchair users can go figgy

Interesting....were does this leave counsils regarding disabled parking < on the public road > can a ablebodied driver be prosecuted for using them. ??
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:08 pm ]
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MR T wrote:
captain cab wrote:
wheelchair users can go figgy

Interesting....were does this leave counsils regarding disabled parking < on the public road > can a ablebodied driver be prosecuted for using them. ??


good point - but its 'probably' covered in the equality act
Author:  MR T [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:15 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
MR T wrote:
captain cab wrote:
wheelchair users can go figgy

Interesting....were does this leave counsils regarding disabled parking < on the public road > can a ablebodied driver be prosecuted for using them. ??


good point - but its 'probably' covered in the equality act

Where ??
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:18 pm ]
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MR T wrote:
Where ??


http://www.disabledmotoring.org/news-an ... dge-ruling

http://www.eversheds.com/global/en/what ... ing_230812
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:19 pm ]
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Summary

There is no express provision dealing with the provision of car parking spaces under the Equality Act 2010.

There is some guidance provided by the BSI Standards on dimensions/the number of spaces and how they should be allocated. These should be considered and adhered to as best practice.

There is a need to make reasonable provision for disabled motorists in terms of the number of spaces, position, policing the spaces and monitoring the use of those spaces to consider whether changes are required.
Author:  MR T [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:31 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
Summary

There is no express provision dealing with the provision of car parking spaces under the Equality Act 2010.

There is some guidance provided by the BSI Standards on dimensions/the number of spaces and how they should be allocated. These should be considered and adhered to as best practice.

There is a need to make reasonable provision for disabled motorists in terms of the number of spaces, position, policing the spaces and monitoring the use of those spaces to consider whether changes are required.



Ta :D
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:39 pm ]
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IMHO, many wheelchair users mistakenly believe that The Equality Act is in fact The Priority Act!!
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:43 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
IMHO, many wheelchair users mistakenly believe that The Equality Act is in fact The Priority Act!!


yeah heaven forbid the less well off actually get an advantage :sad:
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:29 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
IMHO, many wheelchair users mistakenly believe that The Equality Act is in fact The Priority Act!!

yeah heaven forbid the less well off actually get an advantage :sad:

Ever been driven at by an electric wheelchair user at speed on a pavement?

I'm sure they are mumbling, 'I'm going to mow him down' as they drive at you.
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:48 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Ever been driven at by an electric wheelchair user at speed on a pavement?

I'm sure they are mumbling, 'I'm going to mow him down' as they drive at you.



ffs - what is it with cab drivers and the less well off?
Author:  gusmac [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:50 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:


ffs - what is it with cab drivers and the less well off?


The taxi trade is where all the arseholes nobody liked at school ended up :badgrin:
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: First Bus wins wheelchair court judgement
captain cab wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Ever been driven at by an electric wheelchair user at speed on a pavement?

I'm sure they are mumbling, 'I'm going to mow him down' as they drive at you.

ffs - what is it with cab drivers and the less well off?

It's not about the less well off.

It's about the attitude of some wheelchair users.

Not all wheelchair users, just some wheelchair users.
Author:  captain cab [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:17 am ]
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I'm sorry BC - but not being able to do anything because you physically cannot trumps everything - even attitude
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