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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
Uber: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous, claims Black cabbies' leader Taxi-booking app Uber is dangerous because it includes immigrant drivers from "third world countries," a union official for black cabs has claimed. The London Taxi Drivers Association (LTDA) said a lack of background checks by Uber on drivers on its books made it difficult to uncover individuals who posed a risk to passengers. Cabbies on Uber are classed as self-employed and so are not subject to the same screening as black taxi drivers, said Steve McNamara, LTDA general secretary. Foreign drivers from "corrupt countries" could bypass all checks designed to protect customers. he said. As a result, using Uber was like "getting in a sea full of sharks - one day you are going to get bitten," McNamara told IBTimes UK's sister publication Newsweek. However, the regulator for taxis in London responded by revealing more complaints were made by customers about black cabs than private hire drivers. McNamara blasted Uber after a woman in New Delhi, India, was raped by a driver she found on the phone app. The incident has led to Uber being banned in India. He said: "LTDA are very concerned about their screening methods. Even though it's TFL [Transport for London] who screen their drivers, those checks only work if you've been a resident in this country for five or six years. "If you're a recent immigrant in this country, which many of their drivers are, you can't do the same Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check you could if they were from the UK or EU." "The places where they come from, these third world countries, or dodgy Eastern European countries like Lithuania or Romania, the administration isn't great. Their facilities are not good and their administration is poor at best and almost certainly corrupt. They're all corrupt, these countries. You can't rely on someone else to do the checks to the standard we do in this country." The Home Office acknowledged Uber drivers occupied a "grey area" because while Uber sources them customers and takes a 20-30% cut of the fare, the drivers are classed as self-employed. A TfL spokesman said: ""People are welcome to make complaints and commend both taxis and private hire vehicles to us. We see a much higher number of taxi complaints than mini cab complaints though as often, if people know the company name, they'll go straight to them with complaints. "With a black cab we are the first port of call - there's not a body you'd naturally go to complain. But people are perfectly able to come to us about private hire firms too." source: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uber-third-wor ... er-1478806 |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
captain cab wrote: The London Taxi Drivers Association (LTDA) said a lack of background checks by Uber on drivers on its books made it difficult to uncover individuals who posed a risk to passengers. Remind me what different background checks are made on licensed PH drivers to those that are made on licensed taxi drivers? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
Sussex wrote: captain cab wrote: The London Taxi Drivers Association (LTDA) said a lack of background checks by Uber on drivers on its books made it difficult to uncover individuals who posed a risk to passengers. Remind me what different background checks are made on licensed PH drivers to those that are made on licensed taxi drivers? their exactly the same - but I believe tfl don't do certificate of good conduct things - well according to twitter anyway 
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| Author: | GBC [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
Yes, because no one would ever get a certificate of good conduct from a third world country if say .... they paid an official a bribe? Plus their knowledge of the UK capital and language is just excellent? Steve makes a valid point. It takes at least three years to do the Knowledge, that's at least 3 years minimum residency that's accountable, plus they'll have to speak English. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
GBC wrote: Yes, because no one would ever get a certificate of good conduct from a third world country if say .... they paid an official a bribe? Plus their knowledge of the UK capital and language is just excellent? Steve makes a valid point. It takes at least three years to do the Knowledge, that's at least 3 years minimum residency that's accountable, plus they'll have to speak English. maybe so - but he has given UBER more publicity and missed the point that its the same for all minicab drivers |
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| Author: | GBC [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
I think folks who use uber to get a minicab are finding out for themselves. You get a minicab. Not some specially branded product, American driver and car, you get Achmed, a Prius and a sat nav. Funnily enough, just as you do from the other 1500 minicab companies in London minus the meter and surge pricing. Their publicity may well be their demise as an 'operator' |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
GBC wrote: I think folks who use uber to get a minicab are finding out for themselves. You get a minicab. Not some specially branded product, American driver and car, you get Achmed, a Prius and a sat nav. Funnily enough, just as you do from the other 1500 minicab companies in London minus the meter and surge pricing. Their publicity may well be their demise as an 'operator' but that point isn't getting pushed across - UBER are a threat - but IMO not as much a threat as minicabs in general - and the cab trade seem to be doing the minicab spivs work for them free of charge |
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| Author: | GBC [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
I gather the current court case over their various anomalies with the PH act has 'joint' funding if you get my drift.  As I've said before, if they comply with the act, I have no problem with yet another minicab app. They've been in London for 3 years and I can't say they're affecting my business. They're receiving as much backlash from their own drivers as our orgs. The app's now flooded with drivers, whilst lots of app users have gone back to Kebab Shop cars or the bus when their free credits and rides have ran out |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 'Third world immigrant drivers' are dangerous |
GBC wrote: I gather the current court case over their various anomalies with the PH act has 'joint' funding if you get my drift. As I've said before, if they comply with the act, I have no problem with yet another minicab app. They've been in London for 3 years and I can't say they're affecting my business. They're receiving as much backlash from their own drivers as our orgs. The app's now flooded with drivers, whilst lots of app users have gone back to Kebab Shop cars or the bus when their free credits and rides have ran out thanks for that - enlightening - but as I say the minicab trade in general is the greater threat |
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