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Author:  Hacked Off [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Judge questions why cabbie on grope charge is allowed

Judge questions why cabbie on grope charge is allowed to carry on driving taxi

A crown court judge questioned why a taxi driver alleged to have fondled a female passenger is still in the job.

Judge Rhys Rowlands told Mold Crown Court that he knew Mohammed Azizi had not been convicted of a crime.

But he asked why Wrexham County Borough Council felt it appropriate to allow him to continue to hold a taxi badge until the case was finished.

Azizi, 43 of Hazel Grove, Wrexham, appeared at a preliminary hearing today.

Paul Abraham, defending, indicated not guilty pleas.

The defendant was bailed to a plea hearing in February and a provisional trial date was fixed in June.

Judge Rowlands said that it was alleged that the defendant had taken a woman, who was in drink, to her home address.

The charge of sexual assault arose from allegations that he had fondled her there.

“I know the charge is not proved,” he said.

"But everyone put a lot of trust in taxi drivers to look after their wives and daughters .

“What on earth is the council thinking of? That he should continue as a taxi driver until the result of the case?”

Judge Rowlands said that he wanted the police to contact the authority and he wanted an explanation.

He said he wanted to know whether the council had carried out a risk assessment.

If they had failed in their duty to the public then he would step in and change his bail conditions, he said.

Judge Rowlands said he would list the case for a mention hearing next week when the issue would be resolved.

In the meantime Azizi was bailed on condition that he does not approach the complainant and does not go to the area where she lives.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... ge-8497541

Author:  Sussex [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:11 pm ]
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Hacked Off wrote:
A crown court judge questioned why a taxi driver alleged to have fondled a female passenger is still in the job.

Because not everyone is guilty as charged?

And they have families to feed and houses to pay for. ](*,)

Author:  captain cab [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:21 pm ]
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Oh how we love a fair trial!

Author:  toots [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:44 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
Hacked Off wrote:
A crown court judge questioned why a taxi driver alleged to have fondled a female passenger is still in the job.

Because not everyone is guilty as charged?

And they have families to feed and houses to pay for. ](*,)


What if he is guilty, what if he does it again?

Author:  captain cab [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:56 pm ]
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toots wrote:

What if he is guilty, what if he does it again?


then the council should have immediately suspended him - the judge cant make that call - or it could have been made by magistrates.......the judge pre-judged this trial - and any decent lawyer would push for a mis trial

Author:  Chris the Fish [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:54 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
then the council should have immediately suspended him - the judge cant make that call - or it could have been made by magistrates.......the judge pre-judged this trial - and any decent lawyer would push for a mis trial

I do not like Councils having immediate suspension powers but the Magistrates, when committing for trial, could and perhaps should have made a condition of bail not driving a Taxi or PH vehicle. I have to agree that the comment of the Judge would seem to be a bit previous, but he may have been questioning why bail conditions were not used and as it is available, (except in the land of the free, Plymouth) why the LA had not intervened. He rightly points out that he can (and probably will) change the bail conditions.

Author:  captain cab [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:02 am ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
captain cab wrote:
then the council should have immediately suspended him - the judge cant make that call - or it could have been made by magistrates.......the judge pre-judged this trial - and any decent lawyer would push for a mis trial

I do not like Councils having immediate suspension powers but the Magistrates, when committing for trial, could and perhaps should have made a condition of bail not driving a Taxi or PH vehicle. I have to agree that the comment of the Judge would seem to be a bit previous, but he may have been questioning why bail conditions were not used and as it is available, (except in the land of the free, Plymouth) why the LA had not intervened. He rightly points out that he can (and probably will) change the bail conditions.



well said that man =D> =D> =D>

Author:  toots [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:25 am ]
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captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:

What if he is guilty, what if he does it again?


then the council should have immediately suspended him - the judge cant make that call - or it could have been made by magistrates.......the judge pre-judged this trial - and any decent lawyer would push for a mis trial


I wasn't making the comment in view of the trial I was making it in view of what Sussex said

Author:  captain cab [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:26 am ]
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toots wrote:
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:

What if he is guilty, what if he does it again?


then the council should have immediately suspended him - the judge cant make that call - or it could have been made by magistrates.......the judge pre-judged this trial - and any decent lawyer would push for a mis trial


I wasn't making the comment in view of the trial I was making it in view of what Sussex said



sorry maaaaaam :roll:

Author:  toots [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:28 am ]
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You'll be joining the queue with Mr Fish :lol:

Author:  Cabby John 1 [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:03 am ]
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captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:

What if he is guilty, what if he does it again?


then the council should have immediately suspended him - the judge cant make that call - or it could have been made by magistrates.......the judge pre-judged this trial - and any decent lawyer would push for a mis trial


Here,here =D>

Author:  Nidge2 [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Judge questions why cabbie on grope charge is allowed

Hacked Off wrote:
Judge questions why cabbie on grope charge is allowed to carry on driving taxi

A crown court judge questioned why a taxi driver alleged to have fondled a female passenger is still in the job.

Judge Rhys Rowlands told Mold Crown Court that he knew Mohammed Azizi had not been convicted of a crime.

But he asked why Wrexham County Borough Council felt it appropriate to allow him to continue to hold a taxi badge until the case was finished.

Azizi, 43 of Hazel Grove, Wrexham, appeared at a preliminary hearing today.

Paul Abraham, defending, indicated not guilty pleas.

The defendant was bailed to a plea hearing in February and a provisional trial date was fixed in June.

Judge Rowlands said that it was alleged that the defendant had taken a woman, who was in drink, to her home address.

The charge of sexual assault arose from allegations that he had fondled her there.

“I know the charge is not proved,” he said.

"But everyone put a lot of trust in taxi drivers to look after their wives and daughters .

“What on earth is the council thinking of? That he should continue as a taxi driver until the result of the case?”

Judge Rowlands said that he wanted the police to contact the authority and he wanted an explanation.

He said he wanted to know whether the council had carried out a risk assessment.

If they had failed in their duty to the public then he would step in and change his bail conditions, he said.

Judge Rowlands said he would list the case for a mention hearing next week when the issue would be resolved.

In the meantime Azizi was bailed on condition that he does not approach the complainant and does not go to the area where she lives.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... ge-8497541


Notifiable occupations act??

Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:09 pm ]
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toots wrote:
What if he is guilty, what if he does it again?

Then a jury will convict him and he wont be able to drive a cab.

Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:10 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
then the council should have immediately suspended him - the judge cant make that call - or it could have been made by magistrates.......the judge pre-judged this trial - and any decent lawyer would push for a mis trial

The court could make it a bail condition not to drive a cab.

Author:  Chris the Fish [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:53 pm ]
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toots wrote:
You'll be joining the queue with Mr Fish :lol:

Are you seriously telling me that he isn't already :?: :?:

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