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Clause 11

BARONESS THORNTON

Page 8, line 22, at end insert—

“(e) the person who made the booking has consented to their booking being sub-contracted to a second operator.

(1A) A licensing authority may exercise all its powers over a vehicle licensed as a private hire vehicle or taxi if it is operating in their area, even if the licence was issued by another licensing authority.”

grandad wrote:

And your view on that Gramps :?:

grandad wrote:

And your view on that Gramps :?:

Baroness Kramer: Let me move on to exactly that issue because it refers to the first part of Amendment 4. We looked at this very seriously because consent is attractive. First, we looked at the existing situation. As I said, subcontracting across districts in London has been going on for a decade. We have never heard—and we genuinely asked around as much as we could—of anyone complaining that a car came to get them which was not from the firm that they called. You call the Yellow cab company in your area, and a cab from Sun arrives to pick you up. We have never found any complaints that people were not asked for their consent before that happened. So the question arises: is there a problem? Again, within individual districts, subcontracting has been permitted for as long as anyone can remember. We have not had any complaints and cannot find anybody saying “I wasn’t asked before the subcontracting happened within this licensing district”.

But with standard testing and licencing conditions across the country, what will the problem be? We're back to the "don't trust the next council's testing regime" scenario.

Author:	grandad [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:17 am ]
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Clause 11 BARONESS THORNTON Page 8, line 22, at end insert— “(e) the person who made the booking has consented to their booking being sub-contracted to a second operator. (1A) A licensing authority may exercise all its powers over a vehicle licensed as a private hire vehicle or taxi if it is operating in their area, even if the licence was issued by another licensing authority.”

Author:	trotskys twin [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:28 pm ]
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grandad wrote: Clause 11 BARONESS THORNTON Page 8, line 22, at end insert— “(e) the person who made the booking has consented to their booking being sub-contracted to a second operator. (1A) A licensing authority may exercise all its powers over a vehicle licensed as a private hire vehicle or taxi if it is operating in their area, even if the licence was issued by another licensing authority.” And your view on that Gramps

Author:	grandad [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:25 pm ]
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trotskys twin wrote: grandad wrote: Clause 11 BARONESS THORNTON Page 8, line 22, at end insert— “(e) the person who made the booking has consented to their booking being sub-contracted to a second operator. (1A) A licensing authority may exercise all its powers over a vehicle licensed as a private hire vehicle or taxi if it is operating in their area, even if the licence was issued by another licensing authority.” And your view on that Gramps I have no problem with it whatsoever. I think the second part should have been included from the start.

Author:	Sussex [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:28 pm ]
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trotskys twin wrote: grandad wrote: Clause 11 BARONESS THORNTON Page 8, line 22, at end insert— “(e) the person who made the booking has consented to their booking being sub-contracted to a second operator. (1A) A licensing authority may exercise all its powers over a vehicle licensed as a private hire vehicle or taxi if it is operating in their area, even if the licence was issued by another licensing authority.” And your view on that Gramps Spivs wont be happy.

Author:	grandad [ Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:23 am ]
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grandad wrote: Clause 11 BARONESS THORNTON Page 8, line 22, at end insert— “(e) the person who made the booking has consented to their booking being sub-contracted to a second operator. (1A) A licensing authority may exercise all its powers over a vehicle licensed as a private hire vehicle or taxi if it is operating in their area, even if the licence was issued by another licensing authority.” Amendment defeated!

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Author:	roythebus [ Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:08 pm ]
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Spivs happy then!

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:45 am ]
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http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 0349000290 The part of interest starts at 4.38pm The concise version is as follows – the amendments failed.

Author:	grandad [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:56 am ]
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Baroness Kramer: Let me move on to exactly that issue because it refers to the first part of Amendment 4. We looked at this very seriously because consent is attractive. First, we looked at the existing situation. As I said, subcontracting across districts in London has been going on for a decade. We have never heard—and we genuinely asked around as much as we could—of anyone complaining that a car came to get them which was not from the firm that they called. You call the Yellow cab company in your area, and a cab from Sun arrives to pick you up. We have never found any complaints that people were not asked for their consent before that happened. So the question arises: is there a problem? Again, within individual districts, subcontracting has been permitted for as long as anyone can remember. We have not had any complaints and cannot find anybody saying “I wasn’t asked before the subcontracting happened within this licensing district”.

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:59 am ]
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grandad wrote: Baroness Kramer: Let me move on to exactly that issue because it refers to the first part of Amendment 4. We looked at this very seriously because consent is attractive. First, we looked at the existing situation. As I said, subcontracting across districts in London has been going on for a decade. We have never heard—and we genuinely asked around as much as we could—of anyone complaining that a car came to get them which was not from the firm that they called. You call the Yellow cab company in your area, and a cab from Sun arrives to pick you up. We have never found any complaints that people were not asked for their consent before that happened. So the question arises: is there a problem? Again, within individual districts, subcontracting has been permitted for as long as anyone can remember. We have not had any complaints and cannot find anybody saying “I wasn’t asked before the subcontracting happened within this licensing district”. True - except for the fact all the vehicles used are effectively from the area licensed by the same licensing authority - TfL

Author:	roythebus [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:58 pm ]
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But with standard testing and licencing conditions across the country, what will the problem be? We're back to the "don't trust the next council's testing regime" scenario.

Author:	Sussex [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:59 pm ]
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roythebus wrote: But with standard testing and licencing conditions across the country, what will the problem be? We're back to the "don't trust the next council's testing regime" scenario. I think part of the issue is we don't have universal standards before we are going to have universal fleets.

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