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Author:  captain cab [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
Keighley district cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules



CABBIES are calling for a re-think of the rule that all hackney carriages must be wheelchair-friendly.

Keighley and Bradford Taxi Drivers' Association is calling for the council's rules to be relaxed, saying that many elderly people complain they struggle to climb into the taxis.

The association also says the vehicles are expensive to buy and uncomfortable to ride in, with customers branding them "dog vans".

Since 2009, new hackney carriage licences have only been issued for wheelchair-accessible vehicles – usually specially-adapted people carriers or vans.

Currently there are 222 licensed hackney carriages in the Bradford district, with all but four being the new-style wheelchair accessible vehicles.

But Shabir Ahmed, chairman of the association, said there was no need for there to be so many wheelchair-accessible taxis, and new saloon cars should be allowed too.

He said: "We want a review."

Zulfiqar Ali, who has been driving hackney carriages for 15 years, said: "When older people want to get into a taxi, they can't lift their legs up. They want to come and sit on a normal seat and pull their legs in. It would be so easy for them.

"But the councillors say people find it easier to get into these taxis.

"I'm gobsmacked by this. It's really sad because they don't believe the reality."

But the idea has met with opposition from the Bradford and District Disabled People's Forum, which said the arrangement should be kept as it is.

Emmerson Walgrove, deputy chairman of the forum, said anyone struggling to get onto a higher seat could easily be offered some assistance, such as a stool to stand on.

Bradford Council has dismissed the idea of a review.

Councillor David Green, leader of the council, said: "There is no evidence that members of the public are discriminated against by wheelchair accessible vehicles as there are many vehicle variants offering a choice of vehicle type.

"Many people with walking and movement difficulty prefer a vehicle that can be accessed without having to lower themselves on to a low-level seat.

"The council works closely with groups which represent disabled customers to both promote and ensure equality.

"Any move to reduce the number of wheelchair accessible vehicle taxis would be contrary to this."

Jean Walker, founder of Bradford and District Senior Power, said: “I do a lot of work on isolation and anything that makes it easier for people with disabilities to get around is fine.

“If you are disabled, you need transport to be available when you need to use it.

“It is OK for able bodied people to come out with these comments, but I am becoming a bit cynical.

“Anything that makes it harder for disabled people to get out isn’t the way forwards."

source: http://www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/1182 ... air_rules/
Author:  Cabby John 1 [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:13 pm ]
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Quote:
Emmerson Walgrove, deputy chairman of the forum, said anyone struggling to get onto a higher seat could easily be offered some assistance, such as a stool to stand on.



Will I now have to carry a stool :lol: :lol: :lol: What colour of the sky is the planet that she is on #-o
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
If you look at the pictures in the article the vehicle used is a rear loader doblo type - basically a saloon car anyway ffs
Author:  Blackcab Bob [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
Cabby John 1 wrote:
Quote:
Emmerson Walgrove, deputy chairman of the forum, said anyone struggling to get onto a higher seat could easily be offered some assistance, such as a stool to stand on.



Will I now have to carry a stool :lol: :lol: :lol: What colour of the sky is the planet that she is on #-o


According to our licence condition were not allowed a stool :sad: :sad: :sad:
Author:  roythebus [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
Using a stool to get in a vehicle is an elfensafetea risk; your insurance may not cover you if the punter fell off and injured themselves.
Author:  grandad [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
roythebus wrote:
Using a stool to get in a vehicle is an elfensafetea risk; your insurance may not cover you if the punter fell off and injured themselves.

Which insurance would that be, your car insurance or your public liability insurance?
Author:  Nidge2 [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:12 am ]
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captain cab wrote:
If you look at the pictures in the article the vehicle used is a rear loader doblo type - basically a saloon car anyway ffs



Death traps
Author:  grandad [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
Nidge2 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
If you look at the pictures in the article the vehicle used is a rear loader doblo type - basically a saloon car anyway ffs



Death traps

Do you have any figures to back up that statement?
Author:  gusmac [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
If you look at the pictures in the article the vehicle used is a rear loader doblo type - basically a saloon car anyway ffs



Death traps

Do you have any figures to back up that statement?


No he doesn't. Just the opinion of a saloon taxi driver.
Author:  bloodnock [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:18 pm ]
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I pop one of these in the back of the People carrier, It has a non slip surface and is as sure footed as a mountain goat because of its wide base, I then offer them an arm to hold and hey Presto, Old Gran or Grandpas in the Vehicle like a good un. Had no Complaint or Issues to date.

Image

you can get one here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Milenco-Aluminium-Rubber-Single-step/dp/B007MLOUYM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1425384698&sr=8-9&keywords=caravan+step+single
Author:  grandad [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
bloodnock wrote:
I pop one of these in the back of the People carrier, It has a non slip surface and is as sure footed as a mountain goat because of its wide base, I then offer them an arm to hold and hey Presto, Old Gran or Grandpas in the Vehicle like a good un. Had no Complaint or Issues to date.

Image

you can get one here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Milenco-Aluminium-Rubber-Single-step/dp/B007MLOUYM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1425384698&sr=8-9&keywords=caravan+step+single

Or just go around a caravan park at night and nick one. :wink:
Author:  bloodnock [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
grandad wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
I pop one of these in the back of the People carrier, It has a non slip surface and is as sure footed as a mountain goat because of its wide base, I then offer them an arm to hold and hey Presto, Old Gran or Grandpas in the Vehicle like a good un. Had no Complaint or Issues to date.

Image

you can get one here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Milenco-Aluminium-Rubber-Single-step/dp/B007MLOUYM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1425384698&sr=8-9&keywords=caravan+step+single

Or just go around a caravan park at night and nick one. :wink:


Or that.. :wink:
Author:  gusmac [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
bloodnock wrote:
grandad wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
I pop one of these in the back of the People carrier, It has a non slip surface and is as sure footed as a mountain goat because of its wide base, I then offer them an arm to hold and hey Presto, Old Gran or Grandpas in the Vehicle like a good un. Had no Complaint or Issues to date.

Image

you can get one here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Milenco-Aluminium-Rubber-Single-step/dp/B007MLOUYM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1425384698&sr=8-9&keywords=caravan+step+single

Or just go around a caravan park at night and nick one. :wink:


Or that.. :wink:


:shock:

:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
Author:  Nidge2 [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
If you look at the pictures in the article the vehicle used is a rear loader doblo type - basically a saloon car anyway ffs



Death traps

Do you have any figures to back up that statement?



How do you get the wheelchair user out if they've been involved a rear end shunt and the doors won't open? Also they've not been tested to M1 spec so IMO they're a death trap.
Author:  grandad [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: cabbies call for change to wheelchair rules
Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:


Death traps

Do you have any figures to back up that statement?



How do you get the wheelchair user out if they've been involved a rear end shunt and the doors won't open? Also they've not been tested to M1 spec so IMO they're a death trap.

Has this ever happened?
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