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Private hire licencing restrictions help please
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Author:  Foxtrot26 [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Private hire licencing restrictions help please
Hey guys, having a bit of a headache atm with a local authority due to going fully independent rather than working for a radio base.


can someone in the know tell me if i'm doing anything wrong here?

I have 1 vehicle fully licenced and plated by my local authority.
I have 1 driver(me) fully licenced by my local authority.
I have no booking office licence due to having only 1 vehicle(afaik I don't need a licenced booking office until I run 4 or more cars)
my bookings prebooked in advance and are taken either via email or via telephone at my home address which is in the same area I am licenced in booking.


I've been told so many different things by various people in the licencing section my heads literally about to explode.

i'm operating illegally as I'm working from home rather than a booking office
i'm breaking the law because I don't have a 2 way radio In my car.
i'm not allowed to work for myself

currently waiting on a phone call back from a senior licencing officer within my LA to discuss the above but someone please tell me if i'm doing something wrong here.
Author:  Blackcab Bob [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
Depending on your district do you need a operators licence ?
Author:  Foxtrot26 [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
nope,

we have

booking office
Driver
Vehicle

but quick update. phoned the council again, spoke to a different licensing officer and she says I don't need a booking office as long as I run less than 3 cars. close enough for me (the Scottish government say a booking office only need be licensed if it takes bookings for 4 or more cars.

backsides and elbows spring to mind
Author:  gusmac [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
Foxtrot26 wrote:
Hey guys, having a bit of a headache atm with a local authority due to going fully independent rather than working for a radio base.


can someone in the know tell me if i'm doing anything wrong here?

I have 1 vehicle fully licenced and plated by my local authority.
I have 1 driver(me) fully licenced by my local authority.
I have no booking office licence due to having only 1 vehicle(afaik I don't need a licenced booking office until I run 4 or more cars)
my bookings prebooked in advance and are taken either via email or via telephone at my home address which is in the same area I am licenced in booking.


I've been told so many different things by various people in the licencing section my heads literally about to explode.

i'm operating illegally as I'm working from home rather than a booking office
i'm breaking the law because I don't have a 2 way radio In my car.
i'm not allowed to work for myself

currently waiting on a phone call back from a senior licencing officer within my LA to discuss the above but someone please tell me if i'm doing something wrong here.


Your licensing department are talking shite. You don't need to work for a booking office, Your plate is your operating licence and there is no reason why you can't be self employed.

Direct them to the CGSA 1982 and ask them what bit they gleaned those nuggets from.
Author:  grandad [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
gusmac wrote:
Foxtrot26 wrote:
Hey guys, having a bit of a headache atm with a local authority due to going fully independent rather than working for a radio base.


can someone in the know tell me if i'm doing anything wrong here?

I have 1 vehicle fully licenced and plated by my local authority.
I have 1 driver(me) fully licenced by my local authority.
I have no booking office licence due to having only 1 vehicle(afaik I don't need a licenced booking office until I run 4 or more cars)
my bookings prebooked in advance and are taken either via email or via telephone at my home address which is in the same area I am licenced in booking.


I've been told so many different things by various people in the licencing section my heads literally about to explode.

i'm operating illegally as I'm working from home rather than a booking office
i'm breaking the law because I don't have a 2 way radio In my car.
i'm not allowed to work for myself

currently waiting on a phone call back from a senior licencing officer within my LA to discuss the above but someone please tell me if i'm doing something wrong here.


Your licensing department are talking shite. You don't need to work for a booking office, Your plate is your operating licence and there is no reason why you can't be self employed.

Direct them to the CGSA 1982 and ask them what bit they gleaned those nuggets from.

You missed the update then! :roll: :roll:
Author:  gusmac [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
grandad wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Foxtrot26 wrote:
Hey guys, having a bit of a headache atm with a local authority due to going fully independent rather than working for a radio base.


can someone in the know tell me if i'm doing anything wrong here?

I have 1 vehicle fully licenced and plated by my local authority.
I have 1 driver(me) fully licenced by my local authority.
I have no booking office licence due to having only 1 vehicle(afaik I don't need a licenced booking office until I run 4 or more cars)
my bookings prebooked in advance and are taken either via email or via telephone at my home address which is in the same area I am licenced in booking.


I've been told so many different things by various people in the licencing section my heads literally about to explode.

i'm operating illegally as I'm working from home rather than a booking office
i'm breaking the law because I don't have a 2 way radio In my car.
i'm not allowed to work for myself

currently waiting on a phone call back from a senior licencing officer within my LA to discuss the above but someone please tell me if i'm doing something wrong here.


Your licensing department are talking shite. You don't need to work for a booking office, Your plate is your operating licence and there is no reason why you can't be self employed.

Direct them to the CGSA 1982 and ask them what bit they gleaned those nuggets from.

You missed the update then! :roll: :roll:


Yep, was writing on my phone. Think the update was posted while I was writing #-o
Author:  Foxtrot26 [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
on the same subject is there any law to having to run a backflash on the car?
Author:  gusmac [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
What's a backflash?
Author:  Foxtrot26 [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
gusmac wrote:
What's a backflash?




rear window sticker with operators name and phone number,

seemingly I have to have one of these by law as wee :roll:
Author:  gusmac [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
Foxtrot26 wrote:
gusmac wrote:
What's a backflash?




rear window sticker with operators name and phone number,

seemingly I have to have one of these by law as wee :roll:


Nothing in the CGSA about this but it may be a condition of licence in your area. A bit like Edinburgh's door stickers.

You could apply for an exemption from this but no guarantee they will grant it.
Author:  Foxtrot26 [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
Quote:

​(ii)​an ‘Innervision’ style sign or product of the same or similar type or an alternative sign positioned at the bottom or top of the rear windscreen identifying the radio base to which the vehicle belongs i.e. name and telephone number.



What the bells is an innervison sign

Google yields nothing
Author:  gusmac [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
Foxtrot26 wrote:
Quote:

​(ii)​an ‘Innervision’ style sign or product of the same or similar type or an alternative sign positioned at the bottom or top of the rear windscreen identifying the radio base to which the vehicle belongs i.e. name and telephone number.



What the bells is an innervison sign

Google yields nothing


It's a sign that doesn't block your rear view.

Playing devil's advocate, I'd say it doesn't apply to you if you aren't using a RADIO base. :D
Author:  gusmac [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
Alternatively, Just print your name (as it appears on your vehicle licence) with your mobile number and stick it to the inside of the rear window, near the top or bottom. No font size is stated.
Author:  Foxtrot26 [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire licencing restrictions help please
gusmac wrote:
Foxtrot26 wrote:
Quote:

​(ii)​an ‘Innervision’ style sign or product of the same or similar type or an alternative sign positioned at the bottom or top of the rear windscreen identifying the radio base to which the vehicle belongs i.e. name and telephone number.



What the bells is an innervison sign

Google yields nothing


It's a sign that doesn't block your rear view.

Playing devil's advocate, I'd say it doesn't apply to you if you aren't using a RADIO base. :D



indeed or what happens in a situation when you are between radio bases.

currently running flashless no doubt i'll feel the wrath of the Glasgow enforcement teams shortly
makes me wish i'd not bothered renewing my plates and just went and bought a shiny Mercedes and went contract hire exemption
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