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"I'd need to do the course before coming to a proper opinion though."

What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what.

bloodnock wrote:

What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what.

Stop giving them ideas!

What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what.

It's not our Job to become Social workers, GP's or Private Detectives...Do they not already think that if we do see something sinister going on that we wouldn't already notify the Authorities, and those Drivers who wouldn't report such incidents presently will not report them afterwards, regardless of how many courses of awareness they attend, It may also encourage a few vigilante type zealots to make false accusations for some other reason.

It's just another Buck passing exercise from those that should be looking out for such things, if they want us to help then it should only be on a voluntary basis.

What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what.

I think a course that might lead to less children being sexually abused by licensed drivers isn't such a bad thing.

To be honest, a course is a waste of time. If you are "Fit and Proper" you would do this anyway. As with most if not all courses (NVQ, VRQ, BTech etc.) it is simply a tick in the box for the LA, and easy money for the lecturers and a loss of earnings for the Drivers.

Having just done the course, it is so you know how to inform on those that may be abusing Children or other vulnerable members of society. It does nothing to prevent abuse by Licensed Drivers, other than another Licensed Driver may inform on a colleague if he/she has suspicions.

Longer term it may or may not have to be paid for by those attending.

Or do we all think the answer to taxi drivers abusing kids is sticking ones head in the sand?

Author:	captain cab [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:47 am ]
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Taxi drivers could lose licences if they don't take child sexual exploitation awareness courses Cabbies will be taught to spot the signs of child sexual abuse Taxi drivers in Leicester could have their licences suspended if they fail to attend courses on spotting the signs of child sexual exploitation. Officials at Leicester City Council are proposing the compulsory measure in the wake of child abuse scandals elsewhere in the country. An inquiry into widespread exploitation in Rotherham, between 1997 and 2013, concluded 1,400 youngsters were groomed by gangs of men and also found taxi drivers played a "prominent role" in the abuse. Licensing bosses in Leicester have stressed there is no evidence of cabbies in the city being involved in abuse but they say the trade could play a vital role in preventing it in the future. The city council's head of regulatory services Mike Broster said there are some 1,900 licenced drivers. He said: "They could be the eyes and ears to help spot the signs of child sexual exploitation. "The courses will show them how to recognise the signs and how they can go about reporting them either to their managers, the police our safeguarding people." Mr Broster insisted the aim was not to get drivers to inform on each other but to raise awareness of child sexual abuse. He said: "We want drivers looking for the warning signs - for example if they have taken a young person to where and thought it was a strange place." Under the proposed rules private hire and hackney drivers would be compelled to take the half-day course within three months of renewing their licences. If a driver did not take the training without a reasonable explanation, and with out having made plans to do so, they would lose their licence. Nearly 240 drivers involved in school transport contracts have already been briefed and there rest would be trained within a year. All drivers are already required by the council to undergo criminal records checks New drivers would have to pay £20 to take the course which would be added to the cost of applying for their licences. Any drivers who book a place on the monthly-run courses and fail to attend would be charged. A city hackney cab driver, who did not wish to be named, said: "I reckon most cab drivers would report anything suspicious to the council anyway if they though a kid was at risk. "It's obvious it but they might not know exactly what to look for so a course might help." Another driver said: "There will be some drivers who will feel they are being recruited as council snoopers and some who see it as another hoop to jump through just to get to work. "I'd need to do the course before coming to a proper opinion though." Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Taxis ... z3jFFF7Ajg

Author:	toots [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:39 am ]
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Quote: "I'd need to do the course before coming to a proper opinion though." Sensible I guess

Author:	bloodnock [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:01 am ]
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What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what. It's not our Job to become Social workers, GP's or Private Detectives...Do they not already think that if we do see something sinister going on that we wouldn't already notify the Authorities, and those Drivers who wouldn't report such incidents presently will not report them afterwards, regardless of how many courses of awareness they attend, It may also encourage a few vigilante type zealots to make false accusations for some other reason. It's just another Buck passing exercise from those that should be looking out for such things, if they want us to help then it should only be on a voluntary basis.

Author:	grandad [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:15 am ]
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bloodnock wrote: What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what. Stop giving them ideas!

Author:	bloodnock [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:18 am ]
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grandad wrote: bloodnock wrote: What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what. Stop giving them ideas!

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Author:	Cabby John 1 [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:20 am ]
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bloodnock wrote: What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what. It's not our Job to become Social workers, GP's or Private Detectives...Do they not already think that if we do see something sinister going on that we wouldn't already notify the Authorities, and those Drivers who wouldn't report such incidents presently will not report them afterwards, regardless of how many courses of awareness they attend, It may also encourage a few vigilante type zealots to make false accusations for some other reason. It's just another Buck passing exercise from those that should be looking out for such things, if they want us to help then it should only be on a voluntary basis. I am with you totally on that one. Now THEY can turn around and say......look what WE have done to eradicate/help, basically it is no more than lip service.

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:48 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what. I think a course that might lead to less children being sexually abused by licensed drivers isn't such a bad thing.

Author:	Chris the Fish [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:25 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: I think a course that might lead to less children being sexually abused by licensed drivers isn't such a bad thing. Having just done the course, it is so you know how to inform on those that may be abusing Children or other vulnerable members of society. It does nothing to prevent abuse by Licensed Drivers, other than another Licensed Driver may inform on a colleague if he/she has suspicions. To be honest, a course is a waste of time. If you are "Fit and Proper" you would do this anyway. As with most if not all courses (NVQ, VRQ, BTech etc.) it is simply a tick in the box for the LA, and easy money for the lecturers and a loss of earnings for the Drivers.

Author:	captain cab [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:29 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: What next..courses on Drug awareness, Problem Drinking, Arsony, People Smuggling, dog fouling or what. It's not our Job to become Social workers, GP's or Private Detectives...Do they not already think that if we do see something sinister going on that we wouldn't already notify the Authorities, and those Drivers who wouldn't report such incidents presently will not report them afterwards, regardless of how many courses of awareness they attend, It may also encourage a few vigilante type zealots to make false accusations for some other reason. It's just another Buck passing exercise from those that should be looking out for such things, if they want us to help then it should only be on a voluntary basis.

Author:	captain cab [ Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:30 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote: To be honest, a course is a waste of time. If you are "Fit and Proper" you would do this anyway. As with most if not all courses (NVQ, VRQ, BTech etc.) it is simply a tick in the box for the LA, and easy money for the lecturers and a loss of earnings for the Drivers. did someone pay you to attend the course?

Author:	Sussex [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:39 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote: Having just done the course, it is so you know how to inform on those that may be abusing Children or other vulnerable members of society. It does nothing to prevent abuse by Licensed Drivers, other than another Licensed Driver may inform on a colleague if he/she has suspicions. Is that not a good start? Locally I would say 95% of the trade haven't got a clue who to ring or what to do if they have concerns, and think if they drop a driver in it there could be repercussions. It's easy to say dial 999 but drivers will still think they will have to make a statement and attend court if it gets that far. The course might not stop any bad stuff, but it will make drivers feel a little bit more confident that if they do report stuff, there will be no come backs on them. Or do we all think the answer to taxi drivers abusing kids is sticking ones head in the sand?

Author:	Sussex [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:42 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote: Longer term it may or may not have to be paid for by those attending. A sensible local trade with a sensible fare formula could, or maybe should, put the costs of these courses and drivers time into that formula.

Author:	grandad [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:02 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Or do we all think the answer to taxi drivers abusing kids is sticking ones head in the sand? Ah, you think it is all about spotting taxi drivers abusing kids and not any other member of society. Is it any wonder some drivers are against these courses.

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