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Uber on BBC2 at 9:15 am Victoria Derbeyshire program , 100 drivers taking Uber to court ............

Interesting but I think they aren't the best folks to test in court the self-employment scam.

Uber allows them to work with whom they please, and that will be a major issue.

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IDFIMH

This reads either way Sussex.

The 100 drivers aren't the best folks to test in court the self-employment scam?

Or UBER aren't the best folks to test in court the self-employment scam?

Or both?

I think you mean UBER, but could you clarify please.

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related

I mean the drivers have picked the wrong target.

They should have gone for the likes of Addison Lee that forbid you working elsewhere. They also supply the vehicle and insure it.

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IDFIMH

Seems to me the GMB have opened a rather large can of worms

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George Carlin

I thought that was your meaning and I agree with you. But it could be stretched to cover all PH circuits possibly.....

I am surprised that it has not been done before, but this could open the door, win or lose, depending on the wording of the judgement if it goes the distance, for a raft of claims for similar.

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related

A can of worms that maybe should be opened.

I just wish a bit more thought went into the target, cos I'm not convince Uber are the ones to get the best result from.

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IDFIMH

Only if they win, if they lose we go backwards a fair bit.

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IDFIMH

let he who is without sin cast the first stone

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

As I said, depends on the wording the Judge uses.

Let's assume the drivers lose, the Judge may say along the lines of "...not tied in any way to only working for UBER..." It would leave the door wide open for PH drivers who are tied in to only one circuit.

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related

I know of many drivers who would be better off under a PAYE system.

Providing they get holiday and sick pay.

I'm also certain that if the circuits owners had to pay the drivers a wage, then those cars and drivers would be a lot more busier than they are at present.

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IDFIMH

its been pseudo self employment for many a year - shame on those unions

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George Carlin

The 333,333 was too close to call - it was you Sussex, or CC.

Can we have a Photo Finish judgement Alex?

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related

tbh I do deserve it

but fair play to my man edders for trying to get alex or sussex to do it

if you want an honest opinion - tdo should be past 1 million by now

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Circuit owners would look at the trade they generate. If they reckon they can cover it with 100 drivers, they would hire, maybe 110 to cover holiday/sickness etc. and see how it goes. Too many drivers and they don't replace retirees or others that leave. Too few they take on some more.

The days of taking a rent or settle from more than needed would be over, drivers that make the "cut" could and would do well, those that don't will struggle.

If it happened, I foresee the numbers of PH dropping, and Hackney numbers in non-restricted areas increasing at least in the short term. It would actually be the market forces deciding the numbers.

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related