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Author:  captain cab [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:30 pm ]
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Exeter taxi driver in court accused of sexually assaulting passenger


A taxi driver has appeared in court accused of sexually assaulting a female passenger.

Wahib Tameem pleaded not guilty to two counts of sexual assault when he appeared before Judge Geoffrey Mercer, QC, at Exeter Crown Court.

Tameem, aged 59, of Mount Pleasant Road, Exeter, will face trial before a jury later this year. He is accused of sexually assaulting the same woman passenger twice on June 18, 2016.

The judge released on bail with a condition he does not work as a taxi driver pending his trial.

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Author:  edders23 [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:45 pm ]
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and another one :sad:
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:58 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
The judge released on bail with a condition he does not work as a taxi driver pending his trial.


Now that is the way, and it should it be the only way, that an immediate suspension should be achieved. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
Author:  Nidge2 [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:00 am ]
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captain cab wrote:

The judge released on bail with a condition he does not work as a taxi driver pending his trial.



I bet he does one back to Pakistan?
Author:  edders23 [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:13 am ]
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Nidge2 wrote:
captain cab wrote:

The judge released on bail with a condition he does not work as a taxi driver pending his trial.



I bet he does one back to Pakistan?



no mention of him being from Pakistan in the article how do you know he is from there and not Bangladesh,Afghanistan.Sri lanka, India etc. ?
Author:  Nidge2 [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:07 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
captain cab wrote:

The judge released on bail with a condition he does not work as a taxi driver pending his trial.



I bet he does one back to Pakistan?



no mention of him being from Pakistan in the article how do you know he is from there and not Bangladesh,Afghanistan.Sri lanka, India etc. ?



I'll put a months takings on it he's from Pakistan.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:14 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
captain cab wrote:
The judge released on bail with a condition he does not work as a taxi driver pending his trial.


Now that is the way, and it should it be the only way, that an immediate suspension should be achieved. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

I think that's a pretty normal bail condition for matters like this.
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:09 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
captain cab wrote:
The judge released on bail with a condition he does not work as a taxi driver pending his trial.


Now that is the way, and it should it be the only way, that an immediate suspension should be achieved. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

I think that's a pretty normal bail condition for matters like this.

I would agree with you. What I thought I had clarified was that it should be the only way that immediate suspensions are handed out.

In Plymouth there can be no immediate suspensions but in MPA 1976 land there can. If the power is delegated to Licensing Officers they can (and do) suspend immediately, virtually on a whim.
Surely you have not forgotten the four week immediate suspensions handed out to drivers in Sutton in Ashfield for over-ranking? Suspended with no appeal possible until way after the suspensions were finished.

Immediate suspension should only be possible as a Bail Condition.
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:39 am ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
I would agree with you. What I thought I had clarified was that it should be the only way that immediate suspensions are handed out.

There is a difference between police bail, which is used when the police are gathering evidence, to that of court bail when there is enough evidence to charge.

I think a no taxi drive condition on police bail could in many cases be challenged.
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:54 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
I would agree with you. What I thought I had clarified was that it should be the only way that immediate suspensions are handed out.

There is a difference between police bail, which is used when the police are gathering evidence, to that of court bail when there is enough evidence to charge.

I think a no taxi drive condition on police bail could in many cases be challenged.


But I have pushed for Magistrates or Judges only being allowed to award an immediate suspension. The Driver concerned can speak for himself or have a Lawyer represent him before the Justices set the Bail Conditions.

As to the Police Bail, again I agree. If the offence is serious enough then no Bail would be granted. If it is not then the Police should have to get a Bench to impose a suspension.
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:29 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
But I have pushed for Magistrates or Judges only being allowed to award an immediate suspension.

In most cases I agree, but in many cases where DNA is the only evidence I believe council's should have the powers to immediately suspend.

There are also circumstances where summonses are issued, therefore bail isn't used.

In short it's not straightforward.
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:28 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
But I have pushed for Magistrates or Judges only being allowed to award an immediate suspension.

In most cases I agree, but in many cases where DNA is the only evidence I believe council's should have the powers to immediately suspend.

There are also circumstances where summonses are issued, therefore bail isn't used.

In short it's not straightforward.

In any alleged event, if there is enough evidence to suggest a potential crime has been committed and "Immediate Suspension" is a requirement, de facto there is the requirement to put the accused in front of a Bench.

The Bench can Remand in custody (no suspension required - the alleged offender can hardly drive if he/she is residing in a cell), remand on bail (where a condition could be put in to effect an immediate suspension) or give Bail without any condition on Driving a Licenced Vehicle (It is not then for the LA to Immediately Suspend as the alleged perpetrator is in fact "Innocent until Proven Guilty").

I strongly believe that the power given to LA's to immediately suspend in 1976 territories has been, and will be again, abused by those delegated to use the facility.

I would not be against a Lawyer, acting for the LA, requesting a Bail condition preventing use of a Licensed vehicle, but, equally, the accused or his/her Lawyer should be entitled to argue against implementation of such a condition being imposed.
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:08 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
In any alleged event, if there is enough evidence to suggest a potential crime has been committed and "Immediate Suspension" is a requirement, de facto there is the requirement to put the accused in front of a Bench.

But that's not the way it always works, some people are summoned, not bailed.

Also some people wait months until a first hearing.

It's not always a case of an overnight stay in custody and production before the bench.

You also have to take into account that if the driver is being prosecuted for a non taxi incident, the court or police might not know his occupation, thus no bail condition prohibiting taxi/PH driving.
Author:  heathcote [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:49 pm ]
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Your last sentence is the reason why there should be no part time TAXI drivers,if it was only full time (main source earnings/employment)the police and courts would know he was a licensed TAXI driver.
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:03 pm ]
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heathcote wrote:
the police and courts would know he was a licensed TAXI driver.

How?

Are you suggesting we have it tattooed on our head?
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