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some doubt has been cast over the veracity of the judgement of sherrif horsburgh, by alan gladrags of the fastblacks site.

in other words they cant believe it

i can assure you alan i went into the courts to get the judgement
passed it to garry, who passed it to jim, it is bonifide wether you like it or not.

word doc here

http://www.realfastblacks.co.uk/site2/c.e.cvsm&v.doc

pdf here

http://www.realfastblacks.co.uk/site2/CEC-MV.pdf

In other words - can't stomach the truth

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So they think you went to the court, got the judgement, went home and doctored it.

I think they are confusing you with 'Jacobs'.

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IDFIMH

Well done !

You might want to look at http://www.bailii.org/scot/cases/ScotCS/2001/84.html

I am sure it will be of help to you in preparing for when the 'deemed' licence expires

About four years ago there were 4 taxi's operating in Paisley (Renfrewshire Council area) on 'deemed' licences & they had a great time driving about with no plates & no taxi enforcer bothering them

In the end, as you will see from the above judgement, they all received full licences & can be identified by the plates 212A, B, C, & D

from a hack driver on the south coast to hack drivers up near the north pole.
well done to you all.
its so much better when you dont have to pay someone tons to rent.

Thanks for the wave I am sure I speak for all concerned.

You want to have a wee look on the fastblacks forum just to see how bad it is up here.


Thick or what? My God it's embarrassing.


Now you can probably see why we make the distinction between being a taxi driver and just driving one to earn money. Needless to say we consider ourselves to be the latter.

Alan G and the likes are Taxi Drivers.


Scary!:shock:

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George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Yes, I'm surprised Mr G has made such a song and dance over the veracity of the Horsburgh judgement document - if we all did that then there wouldn't be much happening on internet forums at all. But presumably the main problem with the document is that the contents are considered unpalatable.

Also interesting is Mr G's characterisation of the taxi/driver numbers example as 'primary school logic' - if that's the case then it doesn't say much for Halcrow, Jacobs et al since their methodology doesn't seem to encompass this logic at all - they assume that one more plate will increase supply by a percentage as compared to the current number of plates in issue, whereas this is false logic - if an existing driver gets a plate then supply isn't increased at all.

He may have a point about current owners having to work more hours to make up for lost income though, but this just demonstrates the double standard inherent in the whole system - a level playing field means they have to work more hours?

Thus, extending the logic means that some drivers would have to work less hours with derestriction.

I liked Mr Taylor's essay on quality control though, but in case that's a bit too much for some of them, the logic required is basically the opposite of that evident in the past:



http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index ... =127522002

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Yes I agree, but here’s a funny thing. Now that the Council have been directed to issue plates I’ve had a number of drivers wishing to apply regardless of Jacobs. Their attitude reflects a lot of resentment against the council. They appear to feel left out and cheated after failing to take advantage of the opportunity to apply preceding the report. I think the councils problems are just beginning. The minute one of these plates are granted the [edited by admin] is going to hit the fan. Lots of angry cabby's waiting in the wings to get a licence.


I can’t wait!

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I have noted of late that this site tends more and more to bias and misleading statements.

All I have stated on this subject is "Some doubt has been cast on the veracity of the documents received, and no doubt sent, in good faith by Jim Taylor.
Until these doubts are settled the document has been withdrawn. "

Only a fool or a vested interest could take that as making a "song and dance about" or even disputing or failing to stomach it. It is nothing more, nothing less than a simple statement of fact.

You have no idea what the doubt is or was, nor do you care, you merely seek to opine on matters of which you are totally ignorant. But there's nothing new in that, since it is patently obvious to all, from the number and quality of the posts you have made on this site, that truth, intelligence and even common sense are concepts alien to you.

Alan G

Who precisely are you referring to in this regard Alan? You quote a post made by Sussex and then refer to a post made by myself? Or perhaps you're referring to both of us?

Since there seemed no obvious good reason to doctor the document, that it would have taken someone of considerable knowledge to do so, and that it would be an extremely dangerous thing to do, then to that extent and in view of normal practice on sites like these, your conduct did look a bit like making a song and dance about it.

Perhaps you could disclose the nature of the doubts that you entertained, since perhaps if you did it might make your conduct seem a bit more plausible?

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I don't think the site is any more to one side of the arguments than it has ever been, and certainly no more than your own site, so perhaps you could explain? I'm not too keen on the word 'bias' either, although it's one often used with regard to this site - the thing is, the word seems to imply that the site should be impartial, but as with all other trade publications it tends to take sides, just like your own site. Thus what I think you imply by the word bias is that the dominant ethos on here is not in accordance with your own?

As for truth, intelligence and common sense being 'alien concepts', perhaps you could explain this? Otherwise your post looks like the pretty lightweight trick employed by some of just throwing a few pejorative words at people you don't agree with under the good old 'if you throw enough mud, some will stick' principle. That may impress some, but perhaps you could provide something of substance to back your allegations up?

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I have noted of late that this site tends more and more to bias and misleading statemen

oh aye! alan sure thatl be right you barr people who disagree with you
so whats you're point ?

All I have stated on this subject is "Some doubt has been cast on the veracity of the documents received, and no doubt sent, in good faith by Jim Taylor.
Until these doubts are settled the document has been withdrawn. "

Only a fool or a vested interest could take that as making a "song and dance about" or even disputing or failing to stomach it. It is nothing more, nothing less than a simple statement of fact.

but that just it alan, it isnt a statement of fact it's bloody paranioa from you and you're chums

You have no idea what the doubt is or was, nor do you care, you merely seek to opine on matters of which you are totally ignorant. But there's nothing new in that, since it is patently obvious to all, from the number and quality of the posts you have made on this site, that truth, intelligence and even common sense are concepts alien to you.

Alan G[/quote]

alan you made a complete fool of youeself again
and any credibility that you may have had ? has just gone straight out the door

strange but this is exactly what you said(doubt has been cast over the veracity of the doc)
so what biased and whats misleading about it ?

oh and another thing alan
by the time you have decided that the doc is indeed authentic it will be old news.

by then the next wins will be passing through the courts, i wont bother supplying you with a copy of these, not much point really is thier.

was it you're idea to pull it or did some other vested intrest tell you to ?

There seems do be some doubt in the minds of your major contributors as to who they are, so it is not surprising that those of us on the outside don't know who's playing who this week. I refer to the various among your cohorts who use the "Kelly" ID on Fastblacks.

Perhaps you overestimate the difficulty of doctoring a document. I have seen 2 versions of Horsburgh, both from vested interests, both claiming victory despite offering different outcomes. So the removal of the document was hardly a song and dance, merely a precaution.

It would appear that you are allowing your personal views to affect your judgement.

Alan G