grandad wrote:
I have never heard it called the "gig" economy before.
That's why your called Grandad.
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| Author: | captain cab [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
Landmark ruling looms on basic workers' rights for Uber drivers A tribunal is going to decide whether Uber drivers are entitled to receive the minimum wage as well as sickness and holiday pay. An employment tribunal in London will today make a landmark ruling that could set a precedent for the UK's so-called gig economy. Two Uber drivers have brought a case against the car hire service which strikes at the heart of the business model that helped the company grow to be worth billions of pounds worldwide in less than a decade. The drivers claim that Uber is acting unlawfully by denying them basic workers' rights such as the minimum wage along with sick and holiday pay. Uber insists its 40,000 drivers are "partners" and self-employed, meaning they are not entitled to these benefits. Sky News spoke to Henry, who has been working exclusively as an Uber driver for two years. He says he works 14-hour days in order to earn a weekly salary of about £300. He explained: "Uber is a very big company and they are recruiting every single day so you can't argue with them. That is what is worrying, you could lose your job at any time." Jason Moyer-Lee is the leader of the Independent Workers Union of Great Britain, and is calling for a change to employment law to ensure workers in the sector are treated fairly. He said: "The so-called gig economy is a euphemism for exploitation. "It's basically a model that big profit-making companies have developed where they have realised, for the most part, they can get away with having lots of workers who work for them, often exclusively, and help them make their profits. "But they don't provide these people with the minimum wage, holiday and sick pay or pensions and everything that workers across the country have come to take for granted." But not everyone is unhappy with the kind of work that the likes of Uber, Deliveroo and TaskRabbit offer, and instead enjoy the flexibility. Viktor is developing his own software company alongside being an Uber driver. He said: "I think Uber is fantastic, I don't work for anybody or serve anybody. In fact I use it to help me network and get extra money when I need it." The so-called gig or sharing economy has boomed in the UK. Deliveroo is another company embroiled in the row over workers' rights According to official figures, the number of people registered as self-employed rose to 4.8 million in August this year - accounting for 15% of the UK population. As for Uber, it has two million users in London alone and they make around one million trips a week. For many people using the one-off, on-demand services for takeaways, odd jobs or taxi rides is a convenience but critics say it's fuelling inequality, with big companies growing at the expense of others less fortunate. The tribunal's decision could have huge implications not just for Uber and its drivers but for all those invested in the UK's gig economy. If Uber loses, it may radically change how companies in the sector do business and how they treat those that work for them. But if the case goes against the drivers, experts say it would validate this type of flexible working and encourage more on-demand services into the market. source: http://news.sky.com/story/landmark-ruli ... s-10634828 |
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| Author: | grandad [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
I have never heard it called the "gig" economy before. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
grandad wrote: I have never heard it called the "gig" economy before. That's why your called Grandad.
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| Author: | grandad [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
Sussex wrote: grandad wrote: I have never heard it called the "gig" economy before. That's why your called Grandad. Ah, that could be it. |
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| Author: | youbeenbusy [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
They are discussing it on BBC Victoria live program ,one of the panel is Uber brainwashed . |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
youbeenbusy wrote: They are discussing it on BBC Victoria live program ,one of the panel is Uber brainwashed . Maybe he is one of their recruiters. You can get £300 each new driver. Fella down here is up for £10,000 if he can get enough to sign up. |
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| Author: | cabby john [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
The verdict has gone against Uber - however surprise surprise, they will appeal. I would not hold my breath on them not winning. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
cabby john wrote: The verdict has gone against Uber - however surprise surprise, they will appeal. I would not hold my breath on them not winning. Which court does the appeal go to?
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
cabby john wrote: The verdict has gone against Uber - however surprise surprise, they will appeal. I would not hold my breath on them not winning. They have no option other to appeal. If they don't, or if they do and lose at the Supreme Court, their business model in the U.K. and Europe is f***ed. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
Oh and well done to the GMB. I thought they took on the wrong business model, I.e. One that allows drivers to work for others, but clearly they didn't. Very happy to be proved wrong. |
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| Author: | Blueknight [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Uber loses right to classify UK drivers as self-employed |
See below: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... yed-status |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
If you have a spare few minutes. https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content ... 161028.pdf |
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| Author: | toots [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
Will this have an effect on other operators? |
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| Author: | heathcote [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
This decision against Uber will be very hard to appeal against,it has opened the door to a gold mine for drivers and the government ,think about all the back NI contributions the government are going to get at this time of austerity,all the holiday pay that drivers have been denied over the years,the days of paying to be a slave are coming to an end. |
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| Author: | ven2112 [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Landmark ruling looms for Uber drivers |
just won, uber are going to appeal though |
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