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skippy41
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:26 am 
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Looking like everyone will need to be employed
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http://www.commercialmotor.com/news/compliance/operator-loses-appeal-against-hmrcs-self-employed-driver-ruling?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=dlvrit&utm_campaign=FACEBOOK_%7C_News_CM

Looking like everyone will need to be employed




Not long before we see private hire operators in the frame(not just talking about uber) and the V.A.T. man will want his cut on every fare that is done.
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Sussex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:58 am 
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I think the VAT issue and the employment issue are separate.

If a company takes a cut of a fare a driver has done, then that cut and possibly the whole fare is VAT able.

But if the company just takes a weekly rental then only that is VAT able, not the fares that the driver has taken.

I think.

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Sussex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:01 pm 
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Very interesting to see today the Court of Appeal is on the side of worker status for self employed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38931211

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split purse = VAT on all fares

weekly settle/rental that money is liable to VAT not the drivers takings unless above VAT threshold

BUT if companies forced to make drivers employed it would be the total of all fares VAT liable

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trotskys twin
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:09 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Very interesting to see today the Court of Appeal is on the side of worker status for self employed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38931211

And for how many years have i bveen telling you loons exactly that #-o #-o #-o

so now if your at Hermes Addy Lee or others like them NOWS your chance =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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skippy41 wrote:
http://www.commercialmotor.com/news/compliance/operator-loses-appeal-against-hmrcs-self-employed-driver-ruling?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=dlvrit&utm_campaign=FACEBOOK_%7C_News_CM

Looking like everyone will need to be employed


Not everyone Skippy, not everyone.

As Leo Sayer sang... "I'm a one man band"

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grandad
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jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
http://www.commercialmotor.com/news/compliance/operator-loses-appeal-against-hmrcs-self-employed-driver-ruling?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=dlvrit&utm_campaign=FACEBOOK_%7C_News_CM

Looking like everyone will need to be employed


Not everyone Skippy, not everyone.

As Leo Sayer sang... "I'm a one man band"

Ah but maybe you will have to become a limited company and then employ yourself. :wink:

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grandad wrote:
jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
http://www.commercialmotor.com/news/compliance/operator-loses-appeal-against-hmrcs-self-employed-driver-ruling?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=dlvrit&utm_campaign=FACEBOOK_%7C_News_CM

Looking like everyone will need to be employed


Not everyone Skippy, not everyone.

As Leo Sayer sang... "I'm a one man band"

Ah but maybe you will have to become a limited company and then employ yourself. :wink:


I'd sack me on the first day....

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Sussex
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Sussex wrote:
Very interesting to see today the Court of Appeal is on the side of worker status for self employed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38931211

Having read some of the judgement Pimlico v Smith 2017 I'm amzed at just how bad a company, a well established company, can treat those that make money for it.

One of the conditions of the contract is that if the customer doesn't pay the firm' invoice, for the work undertaken by the plumber, within six months, then the plumber doesn't get a bean for all the work he has done.

Even if the customer subsequently pays in month seven. :shock:

Not often I'm speechless. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

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roythebus
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Deja Vu? I remember posting a link to this case a week or so ago on the court case database section. :)
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Deja Vu? I remember posting a link to this case a week or so ago on the court case database section. :)



do you think skippy would have noticed that ? plus this is an article in a rag about said case

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