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Author:  captain cab [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Black cab drivers fear 'death of the industry'
Black cab drivers fear 'death of the industry' after new emissions rules introduced

BLACK cabs could become a thing of the past as the Government cracks down on polluting diesel vehicles, drivers warn.

Cabbies say the crippling costs of replacing their vehicles with hybrid or electric ones will drive many of them out of the industry.

The warning comes after Transport Secretary Chris Grayling suggested private motorists should also opt for lowemission cars rather than diesel.

The Government has ordered five cities – Birmingham, Leeds, Nottingham, Derby and Southampton – to introduce a Clean Air Zone by 2020 to meet the EU’s Air Quality Directive.

In a bid to comply with the guidelines, Birmingham City Council has proposed banning taxis that do not meet EU standards, a move that could force drivers to fork out up to £45,000 for new cabs.

Under the proposed rules, only cabs that reach the Euro 3 standard will be given licences in December and by December 2018 the vehicles must be Euro 6 compliant.

By 2026 all black cabs must be ultra low-emission vehicles, electric or plug-in hybrid, and by 2030 they must all be zero emission. 

More than 500 taxis would be forced off the roads by the end of this year, while the city’s entire 1,300-strong fleet of black cabs would be obsolete by 2018.

The council said the moves were for the “greater good of all citizens above the interests of individual drivers”.

Zak Kowalski, a cabbie for 44 years, said: “I am 68. I was hoping to have a few years left but there is just no way I can afford a new cab now. 

“It is very misguided. The infrastructure is not there for electric cabs, there are no chargers, or engineers to work on them here.

“I don’t think people realise how big this is. It could well see the death of the black cab industry.”

In September 2015 Roger Bartlet, 58, bought a £30,000 Ford Torneo taxi that will now be obsolete by December 2018. Yet he will still have two years of payments left.

He said: “It’s dreadful. I put my savings down on a deposit, everything I have.

“I will still have the debt after this change but now how can I sell it?”

There are fears that taxi drivers in cities across the country will be facing similar choices in the future.

source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/772111 ... iesel-cars
Author:  Nidge2 [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:30 pm ]
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It's dead already without stupid decisions like this. The job is fooked.
Author:  Nidge2 [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:32 pm ]
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Quote:
In a bid to comply with the guidelines, Birmingham City Council has proposed banning taxis that do not meet EU standards, a move that could force drivers to fork out up to £45,000 for new cabs.


They've obviously had a back pocket payment from some manufacturer because when we trigger article 50 that's us done with the fookin EU liars and money grabbers.

I wonder if Poland, Greece and all the other EU countries are going to do the same?
Author:  edders23 [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:55 pm ]
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All that's needed is an LPG only engine instead of a converted petrol and problem solved
Author:  ven2112 [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:55 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
All that's needed is an LPG only engine instead of a converted petrol and problem solved


:?
Author:  skippy41 [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:49 pm ]
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Quote:
In September 2015 Roger Bartlet, 58, bought a £30,000 Ford Torneo taxi that will now be obsolete by December 2018. Yet he will still have two years of payments left.


Its euro 6 isn't it , so it will be fine
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:48 am ]
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skippy41 wrote:
Quote:
In September 2015 Roger Bartlet, 58, bought a £30,000 Ford Torneo taxi that will now be obsolete by December 2018. Yet he will still have two years of payments left.


Its euro 6 isn't it , so it will be fine

Unfortunately, Roger's cab is Euro 5!
I work with him at BHX.
Author:  grandad [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:12 pm ]
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Nidge2 wrote:
when we trigger article 50 that's us done with the fookin EU liars and money grabbers.


You are having a laugh aren't you.
Author:  edders23 [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:22 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote:
Quote:
In September 2015 Roger Bartlet, 58, bought a £30,000 Ford Torneo taxi that will now be obsolete by December 2018. Yet he will still have two years of payments left.


Its euro 6 isn't it , so it will be fine



I have an identical vehicle mine is Euro 5 :wink:

euro 6 engines have a life expectancy of only 100000 miles due to the highly stressed nature of the engines small with big or twin turbo's euro 5 vehicles have more conventional diesels which are more robust !!
Author:  Nidge2 [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:29 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
when we trigger article 50 that's us done with the fookin EU liars and money grabbers.


You are having a laugh aren't you.


No, it's not a laughing matter when people livelihoods are at stake.
Author:  grandad [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:05 pm ]
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Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
when we trigger article 50 that's us done with the fookin EU liars and money grabbers.


You are having a laugh aren't you.


No, it's not a laughing matter when people livelihoods are at stake.

The triggering of article 50 does not mean we are done with the EU at all.
Author:  Hacked Off [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:17 pm ]
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Author:  skippy41 [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:28 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Quote:
In September 2015 Roger Bartlet, 58, bought a £30,000 Ford Torneo taxi that will now be obsolete by December 2018. Yet he will still have two years of payments left.


Its euro 6 isn't it , so it will be fine

Unfortunately, Roger's cab is Euro 5!
I work with him at BHX.


Do they mean new cabs though, or every cab thats licence at the moment, Is there an age limit, it could be on a rolling scheme like in London , once they reach 15 they must be replaced, or converted to run on LPG
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:55 pm ]
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I'm sure and decent organisation will be able to persuade a council into exceptional circumstances in respect of Roger.

Nidge, the emissions are outside of the EU I think - its a global agreement.

The entire issue is a social issue, not just taxis.
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:04 pm ]
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the comments are 'interesting' on the express site :lol:
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