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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:37 am 
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It’s illegal to use a hand-held phone or similar device while driving, or riding a motorcycle. The rules are the same if you’re stopped at traffic lights or queuing in traffic.
Penalties for using your phone while driving
You could get 6 penalty points on your licence and a fine of £200.
Your case could also go to court and you could be disqualified from driving or riding and get a maximum fine of £1,000. Drivers of buses or goods vehicles could get a maximum fine of £2,500.

Undoubtedly, you are all aware of the change in the law. My reason for offering it as a subject for consideration and discussion is this. Where does this leave all those Uber partners (I use the term partner advisedly) who either; have a smart phone issued to them by Uber or have to provide their own smart phone to accept the offers of jobs sent to them by the company?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:44 am 
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As long as they are parked up they are legal

The biggest problem is Bluetooth technology which is very unreliable we need a replacement technology that actually works

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:53 am 
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Blueknight wrote:
It’s illegal to use a hand-held phone or similar device while driving, or riding a motorcycle. The rules are the same if you’re stopped at traffic lights or queuing in traffic.
Penalties for using your phone while driving
You could get 6 penalty points on your licence and a fine of £200.
Your case could also go to court and you could be disqualified from driving or riding and get a maximum fine of £1,000. Drivers of buses or goods vehicles could get a maximum fine of £2,500.

Undoubtedly, you are all aware of the change in the law. My reason for offering it as a subject for consideration and discussion is this. Where does this leave all those Uber partners (I use the term partner advisedly) who either; have a smart phone issued to them by Uber or have to provide their own smart phone to accept the offers of jobs sent to them by the company?

I would think it leaves them in exactly the same position as any one who uses a mobile phone or datahead to accept jobs.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:09 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Blueknight wrote:
It’s illegal to use a hand-held phone or similar device while driving, or riding a motorcycle. The rules are the same if you’re stopped at traffic lights or queuing in traffic.
Penalties for using your phone while driving
You could get 6 penalty points on your licence and a fine of £200.
Your case could also go to court and you could be disqualified from driving or riding and get a maximum fine of £1,000. Drivers of buses or goods vehicles could get a maximum fine of £2,500.

Undoubtedly, you are all aware of the change in the law. My reason for offering it as a subject for consideration and discussion is this. Where does this leave all those Uber partners (I use the term partner advisedly) who either; have a smart phone issued to them by Uber or have to provide their own smart phone to accept the offers of jobs sent to them by the company?

I would think it leaves them in exactly the same position as any one who uses a mobile phone or data head to accept jobs.



The LAW change applies to any web enabled device and one would think that the policing of this would begin with our TAXI and private hire operations as there is "No exclusions"

Phones,data heads and card payment mechanisms all fall foul of this LAW,heed the warning,park up and turn ignition off then remove the key and you definitely will not be prosecuted.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:57 pm 
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If it has a sim card it's a mobile device. Use a PDA to accept a job and you are breaking the law because you are reading a text message. They've been out round here today in force topping the coffers up.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:52 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
As long as they are parked up they are legal

The biggest problem is Bluetooth technology which is very unreliable we need a replacement technology that actually works


I can't say I have had any reliability problems with any of the Bluetooth headsets I've owned..


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bloodnock wrote:
edders23 wrote:
As long as they are parked up they are legal

The biggest problem is Bluetooth technology which is very unreliable we need a replacement technology that actually works


I can't say I have had any reliability problems with any of the Bluetooth headsets I've owned..



between myself and all of my drivers none of us have owned a bluetooth in the last 5 years that didn't stop working with at least one phone. i just bought another last week and it connected fine to my personal mobile but will not recognise the business mobile :roll:

I once bought one that stopped working after just 2 hours !!!!

what is needed is voice activated technology that means you don't have to use touch at all

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:16 pm 
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edders23 wrote:

what is needed is voice activated technology that means you don't have to use touch at all

My garmin sat nav is about 4 years old and already has blue tooth and voice activation.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:34 pm 
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I think all the time it's in a cradle it's legal.

Unless it's being held in the hand, it's not hand held.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:01 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
I think all the time it's in a cradle it's legal.

Unless it's being held in the hand, it's not hand held.



A few years ago someone round here got his collar felt by the law, they pulled up at the side of him at some traffic lights when he accepted a job on his PDA, he was reading the job when they told him to pull over after the lights. They drilled him a new arsehole but used their common sense and didn't issue him with a ticket.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:04 pm 
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/taxi-driver-caught-using-mobile-12675312.amp



The Asian lads round here are always on their phones. I bet they've caught one today because the police have been out in force today round here. The burglars have made some £££ today.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:40 am 
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Buy vehicles with built in BT, most manufacturers have them now


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:47 am 
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This should help :

https://twitter.com/SurreyRoadCops/stat ... 8561549312


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skippy41 wrote:
Buy vehicles with built in BT, most manufacturers have them now

Can order a curry on my phone without pressing any button.

Really doesn't get any better than that.

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