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Author:  captain cab [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

Taxi drivers with Knowsley badge could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

Moves comes after floods of applications from Manchester drivers

Taxi drivers in Knowsley could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

Taxi drivers granted a licence in Knowsley could now have their badge revoked if they don’t work in the borough.

In January Knowsley Council suspended issuing new taxi licences over concerns that changes to their licensing process made it too easy for people to qualify as a taxi driver and that the system was being gamed by drivers from Manchester and Liverpool - causing problems for local drivers.

Now the council are recommending further changes to the licence approval process and say they will ‘consider refusing to issue a drivers licence or revoking an existing licence if a driver is not, does not intend to, or has not worked, predominantly within the locality of Knowsley’.

It is no longer a requirement for a Hackney cab or private hire driver to live and work in the area where the licence is issued which, coupled with the ‘street knowledge’ section of the application being removed, has seen an influx of applications from people outside the area.

Taxi drivers in Merseyside spoke out over the issue claiming would-be drivers are ‘scamming’ Knowsley Council by going into the borough applying for a licence and then going to Manchester or Liverpool to ‘work for Uber’ because they don’t have to have street knowledge to get a licence in the borough.

A report prepared for the council’s licensing committee, which is expected to meet on Monday (March, 20), said: “Over the last 12 months there has been an unprecedented increase in private hire applications in Knowsley.

“In view of this increase, the decision was taken to ‘temporarily’ suspend all new private hire and hackney carriage driver applications on January 9, while a review took place into the reasons for the increased numbers and to consider whether the council’s existing policies remained robust and fit for purpose.”

The suspension was lifted on January 30 and a number of reasons for the increase in applications were detailed in the review, including the fact the knowledge test was abolished and drivers obtaining licences in Knowsley could work in other areas.

Knowsley Council says the review ‘also revealed there were a number of drivers who had been licensed in the borough but were not working in Knowsley and some of these drivers were working solely outside of the Liverpool City Region’.

The report goes on to say: “It is therefore proposed that the existing Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers Policy be amended to include an intended use provision.”

Uber have made representations to Knowsley Council stating they do not support the ‘introduction of an intended use policy’, however Alpha said that it a good idea.

Delta are objecting to the new policy, saying: “It would mean that any Delta driver licensed by Knowsley would have to return to the Knowsley area after they had dropped off a customer before being allowed to accept another job.”

source: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... ar_twitter

Author:  edders23 [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:14 am ]
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Taxi drivers in Knowsley could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

not WILL :wink:

Rutland "insist" you work predominantly locally but ask grandad if they enforce that :wink:

Author:  grandad [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

edders23 wrote:
Taxi drivers in Knowsley could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

not WILL :wink:

Rutland "insist" you work predominantly locally but ask grandad if they enforce that :wink:

They don't enforce anything.

Author:  toots [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

Quote:
Delta are objecting to the new policy, saying: “It would mean that any Delta driver licensed by Knowsley would have to return to the Knowsley area after they had dropped off a customer before being allowed to accept another job.”


Delta have never approved of any restrictions at all to the licensing of ph drivers, with perhaps the exception of a DBS. I think their plan was to have all future drivers licensed by Knowsley and for them vehicles to work all 5 boroughs they hold an ops licence in.

Author:  MR T [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

captain cab wrote:
Taxi drivers with Knowsley badge could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

Moves comes after floods of applications from Manchester drivers

Taxi drivers in Knowsley could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

Taxi drivers granted a licence in Knowsley could now have their badge revoked if they don’t work in the borough.

In January Knowsley Council suspended issuing new taxi licences over concerns that changes to their licensing process made it too easy for people to qualify as a taxi driver and that the system was being gamed by drivers from Manchester and Liverpool - causing problems for local drivers.

Now the council are recommending further changes to the licence approval process and say they will ‘consider refusing to issue a drivers licence or revoking an existing licence if a driver is not, does not intend to, or has not worked, predominantly within the locality of Knowsley’.

It is no longer a requirement for a Hackney cab or private hire driver to live and work in the area where the licence is issued which, coupled with the ‘street knowledge’ section of the application being removed, has seen an influx of applications from people outside the area.

Taxi drivers in Merseyside spoke out over the issue claiming would-be drivers are ‘scamming’ Knowsley Council by going into the borough applying for a licence and then going to Manchester or Liverpool to ‘work for Uber’ because they don’t have to have street knowledge to get a licence in the borough.

A report prepared for the council’s licensing committee, which is expected to meet on Monday (March, 20), said: “Over the last 12 months there has been an unprecedented increase in private hire applications in Knowsley.

“In view of this increase, the decision was taken to ‘temporarily’ suspend all new private hire and hackney carriage driver applications on January 9, while a review took place into the reasons for the increased numbers and to consider whether the council’s existing policies remained robust and fit for purpose.”

The suspension was lifted on January 30 and a number of reasons for the increase in applications were detailed in the review, including the fact the knowledge test was abolished and drivers obtaining licences in Knowsley could work in other areas.

Knowsley Council says the review ‘also revealed there were a number of drivers who had been licensed in the borough but were not working in Knowsley and some of these drivers were working solely outside of the Liverpool City Region’.

The report goes on to say: “It is therefore proposed that the existing Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers Policy be amended to include an intended use provision.”

Uber have made representations to Knowsley Council stating they do not support the ‘introduction of an intended use policy’, however Alpha said that it a good idea.

Delta are objecting to the new policy, saying: “It would mean that any Delta driver licensed by Knowsley would have to return to the Knowsley area after they had dropped off a customer before being allowed to accept another job.”

source: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... ar_twitter

Threats of Judicial review are in the air.You would think that a senior licencing officer of his experience would not of made such a mess of things :roll:

Author:  edders23 [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

Threats of Judicial review are in the air.You would think that a senior licencing officer of his experience would not of made such a mess of things :roll:

:-# :-# :-# :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  MR T [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

MR T wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Taxi drivers with Knowsley badge could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

Moves comes after floods of applications from Manchester drivers

Taxi drivers in Knowsley could have licences REVOKED if they don't work locally

Taxi drivers granted a licence in Knowsley could now have their badge revoked if they don’t work in the borough.

In January Knowsley Council suspended issuing new taxi licences over concerns that changes to their licensing process made it too easy for people to qualify as a taxi driver and that the system was being gamed by drivers from Manchester and Liverpool - causing problems for local drivers.

Now the council are recommending further changes to the licence approval process and say they will ‘consider refusing to issue a drivers licence or revoking an existing licence if a driver is not, does not intend to, or has not worked, predominantly within the locality of Knowsley’.

It is no longer a requirement for a Hackney cab or private hire driver to live and work in the area where the licence is issued which, coupled with the ‘street knowledge’ section of the application being removed, has seen an influx of applications from people outside the area.

Taxi drivers in Merseyside spoke out over the issue claiming would-be drivers are ‘scamming’ Knowsley Council by going into the borough applying for a licence and then going to Manchester or Liverpool to ‘work for Uber’ because they don’t have to have street knowledge to get a licence in the borough.

A report prepared for the council’s licensing committee, which is expected to meet on Monday (March, 20), said: “Over the last 12 months there has been an unprecedented increase in private hire applications in Knowsley.

“In view of this increase, the decision was taken to ‘temporarily’ suspend all new private hire and hackney carriage driver applications on January 9, while a review took place into the reasons for the increased numbers and to consider whether the council’s existing policies remained robust and fit for purpose.”

The suspension was lifted on January 30 and a number of reasons for the increase in applications were detailed in the review, including the fact the knowledge test was abolished and drivers obtaining licences in Knowsley could work in other areas.

Knowsley Council says the review ‘also revealed there were a number of drivers who had been licensed in the borough but were not working in Knowsley and some of these drivers were working solely outside of the Liverpool City Region’.

The report goes on to say: “It is therefore proposed that the existing Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers Policy be amended to include an intended use provision.”

Uber have made representations to Knowsley Council stating they do not support the ‘introduction of an intended use policy’, however Alpha said that it a good idea.

Delta are objecting to the new policy, saying: “It would mean that any Delta driver licensed by Knowsley would have to return to the Knowsley area after they had dropped off a customer before being allowed to accept another job.”

source: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... ar_twitter

Threats of Judicial review are in the air.You would think that a senior licencing officer of his experience would not of made such a mess of things :roll:

Goes to court next week.... Liverpool..2 day's

Author:  Sussex [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:05 pm ]
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MR T wrote:
Goes to court next week.... Liverpool..2 day's

Going to be a busy year for court cases relating to our trade.

Can we rely on you going to keep us all updated? :D

Author:  skippy41 [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

Reintroduce the street test, that would stop them in their tracks

Author:  MR T [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
Goes to court next week.... Liverpool..2 day's

Going to be a busy year for court cases relating to our trade.

Can we rely on you going to keep us all updated? :D

http://licensing-lawyer.co.uk/knowsley- ... nlawful-2/

140000 cost's

Author:  Sussex [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Knowsely drivers could have badges revoked

MR T wrote:

Thank you Mr T.

I have started a new thread.

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