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Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
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Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
In a recent landmark ruling, the first known prosecution under the Deregulation Act 2015 dealing with cross border bookings took place before District Judge Malcolm Dodds sitting at High Wycombe Magistrates Court. He handed down a thorough and reasoned written judgment dismissing a prosecution brought by Milton Keynes Council against ‘Skyline Taxis and Private Hire Limited’ and its managing director, Gavin Sokhi.

Kevin Leigh acted for Skyline and Daniel Oscroftfor Mr Sokhi, both counsel at No5 Barristers’ Chambers instructed by Woodfines. The council had alleged that the iCabbi computerised system operated by the company breached the change in the law regarding subcontracting work to another licensed operator.

The judge concluded that the iCabbi system provided for a lawful method of transferring bookings between licensed operators in different districts and provided a thorough record of such bookings that showed they were lawfully contracted.

The Lawyer
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
a transcript would be useful
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
captain cab wrote:
a transcript would be useful

Indeed.

Let's hope it goes to appeal and clarifies matters a bit more.
Author:  Paulo1927 [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
https://www.no5.com/news-and-publicatio ... -judgment/

The judgement is on the link.
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
Paulo1927 wrote:
https://www.no5.com/news-and-publications/news/1584-milton-keynes-council-v-skyline-taxis-and-private-hire-ltd-and-gavin-sokhi-judgment/

The judgement is on the link.

Thanks but the Captain hates links. :D
Author:  captain cab [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:44 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
Thanks but the Captain hates links. :D


steady on
Author:  captain cab [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
10:00

For Hearing Appeal by way of Case Stated

CO/3499/2017 Milton Keynes Council v Skyline Taxi And Private Hire Limited

ADMINISTRATIVE COURT

BEFORE HIS HONOUR JUDGE PURLE QC

SITTING AS A JUDGE OF THE HIGH COURT

THURSDAY 26 OCTOBER 2017

IN COURT 205 ON THE SECOND FLOOR
Author:  captain cab [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
original judgement - https://www.no5.com/cms/documents/SKYLI ... 5may17.pdf
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:53 am ]
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captain cab wrote:
original judgement - https://www.no5.com/cms/documents/SKYLI ... 5may17.pdf

A fascinating one to watch, that could have ramifications for everyone using similar systems and/or those fighting Uber.

Guess it’s going to come down to the definition of ‘accept’.
Author:  MR T [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
original judgement - https://www.no5.com/cms/documents/SKYLI ... 5may17.pdf

A fascinating one to watch, that could have ramifications for everyone using similar systems and/or those fighting Uber.

Guess it’s going to come down to the definition of ‘accept’.

Or quill v pen......pen v technology
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
Eventually getting around to reading the outcome from the magistrates court I think I can see what the council are aiming at.

The job was booked by auto booking, not an app booking. The firm use the 'nearest car' to fulfill the booking, be that a MK car or one from the sticks.

Normally that's quite straight forward as the system can see who's nearest take the booking and dispatch via the operator's license for the same area as the car.

Now for what it's worth I think that's illegal, but it appears the District Judge wasn't convinced.

But I'm not sure that's the point MK council were getting at.

When the booking was taken there wasn't a car near to dispatch it to straight away. So in effect what happened was the firm took the booking and then put the job on hold until a car became available.

But that booking on hold has got to have been accepted by an operator's license somewhere, so if the booking is eventually dispatched to a car that isn't licensed in that licensing area, and no record of it being passed onto a different operating area, before the job is dispatched to the car that actually did the job, then clearly questions need to be asked.

Which is maybe why it's been in the High Court today.

For the record I believe if the above scenerio is correct, the council are going to win. But then again I'm slightly biased. :-$
Author:  Paulo1927 [ Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
It's been in the High Court? Has there been any word on this??
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
Paulo1927 wrote:
It's been in the High Court? Has there been any word on this??

Not yet.

Maybe in the next few weeks.
Author:  Paulo1927 [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Adm ... /2794.html

Appeal was dismissed
Author:  roythebus [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Milton Keynes v Skyline Taxis – iCabbi judgment
An interesting case and outcome, and one that should stop a lot of bitching amongst drivers but probably won't!
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