Interesting the GMB are taking on AL when the Uber case is already before the courts.
I would have thought the AL case would be delayed until the Uber case is dealt with.
Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye.
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
Missed this one. http://uk.businessinsider.com/gmb-leigh ... ?r=US&IR=T I was surprised the GMB didn't take AL on before Uber, as IMO this would have been an easier case to win. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
Sussex wrote: Missed this one. http://uk.businessinsider.com/gmb-leigh ... ?r=US&IR=T I was surprised the GMB didn't take AL on before Uber, as IMO this would have been an easier case to win. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in that court room. |
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| Author: | sasha [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
Can the drivers ; Accept/decline any job they wish without penalty ? Decide their own prices (within legal requirements) ? Do the drivers; Have to wear what AL tells them ? Have their vehicles a certain colour ? Have to give discounts on certain fares ? Have to work certain hours/shifts, and if they refuse are they penalised ? Can they; Start and finish at any time they want ? Take days off/holidays at any time ? Plot areas they choose ? Refuse to do certain jobs/contracts ? |
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| Author: | grandad [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
sasha wrote: Can the drivers ; Accept/decline any job they wish without penalty ? Decide their own prices (within legal requirements) ? Do the drivers; Have to wear what AL tells them ? Have their vehicles a certain colour ? Have to give discounts on certain fares ? Have to work certain hours/shifts, and if they refuse are they penalised ? Can they; Start and finish at any time they want ? Take days off/holidays at any time ? Plot areas they choose ? Refuse to do certain jobs/contracts ? Some of the above can't be done by the driver. such as set their own fares. That can only be done by the operator. also, I think you will find that all the vehicles are owned by AL and rented to the drivers. Probably by a different branch of the business to the passenger transport business. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
Interesting the GMB are taking on AL when the Uber case is already before the courts. I would have thought the AL case would be delayed until the Uber case is dealt with. Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye.
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... omy-rights |
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| Author: | sasha [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
I hope my company are reading this. "Workers were given Addison Lee-branded bags and T-shirts, responded to a central controller and used Addison Lee IT devices, including a system that had no “decline” button when a job was offered." We have to use company branded vehicles in their colours, wear company branded clothing (which we have to pay for), work through a controller, and use a company PDA (it does have a decline button, but decline too many jobs and you wil be penalised). Yet no matter how many times they are warned we could be classed as employees and all it would take is one driver to go to a tribunal to cost the company £tens of thousands, they still insist we are self employed, have no rights, and if we don't like it work for someone else ! |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
sasha wrote: I hope my company are reading this. "Workers were given Addison Lee-branded bags and T-shirts, responded to a central controller and used Addison Lee IT devices, including a system that had no “decline” button when a job was offered." We have to use company branded vehicles in their colours, wear company branded clothing (which we have to pay for), work through a controller, and use a company PDA (it does have a decline button, but decline too many jobs and you wil be penalised). Yet no matter how many times they are warned we could be classed as employees and all it would take is one driver to go to a tribunal to cost the company £tens of thousands, they still insist we are self employed, have no rights, and if we don't like it work for someone else ! perhaps then you should join the GMB  ps don't tell trotsky I said that 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
skippy41 wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/02/addison-lee-suffers-latest-defeat-in-legal-row-over-gig-economy-rights The tribunal judge had the same utter contempt of AL as the judge in the GMB v Uber case had of Uber. Well done to the unions on both the above. 
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
[quote="Sussex"]Missed this one. http://uk.businessinsider.com/gmb-leigh ... ?r=US&IR=T easy answer not one driver with AL at the time was prepared to be named in the case against AL that of course includes the current Branch President in London, the lawyers were ready to go AND THE FINANCE AGREED . 
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GMB take on Addison Lee re workers rights |
edders23 wrote: sasha wrote: I hope my company are reading this. "Workers were given Addison Lee-branded bags and T-shirts, responded to a central controller and used Addison Lee IT devices, including a system that had no “decline” button when a job was offered." We have to use company branded vehicles in their colours, wear company branded clothing (which we have to pay for), work through a controller, and use a company PDA (it does have a decline button, but decline too many jobs and you wil be penalised). Yet no matter how many times they are warned we could be classed as employees and all it would take is one driver to go to a tribunal to cost the company £tens of thousands, they still insist we are self employed, have no rights, and if we don't like it work for someone else ! perhaps then you should join the GMB ps don't tell trotsky I said that He's been told that often enough but it appears he is a MUG so typical of you lot 
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