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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:14 pm 
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Greece wants to force Uber into hiring full-time taxi drivers

Greece, a country with a lot of debt and an angry taxi lobby, is the latest to ponder anti-ride-sharing legislation. The country reportedly plans to force ride-sharing firms like Uber and Taxibeat to ink three-year contracts with licensed drivers, effectively turning them into full-time employees. Operators would need to buy taxi licenses be subject to stricter rules than currently allowed, according to Reuters.

Greek's taxi drivers have reportedly lobbied the government to make the changes, saying that drivers using the new services have lower barriers to entry. "You can't have a group of professionals being normally taxed ... and a few others not paying at all for the same job, because there [are no set rules]," taxi union head Thymios Lyberopoulos told Reuters.

As in France, Uber does not offer its UberPop service in Greece, but instead gives its app to professional taxi drivers and chauffeurs licensed for tourism-related activities. It's not clear whether the new rules would affect one or both groups of drivers.

Uber isn't the largest ride-sharing service in Greece, however -- that honor belongs to Taxibeat. It teamed up with around 8,000 taxi drivers with an app and tracking service, and counts over a million users. "They are trying to regulate the market in a way which, essentially, makes the operation of our app in Greece unfeasible and if not unfeasible ... in any case it will make it very difficult," Taxibeat founder Nikos Drandakis said.

London is the most recent region to ban Uber, saying its service are not "fit and proper." Uber's new CEO, Dara Khosrowshahi, apologized to Londoners and told employees in a company letter that "there is a high cost to a bad reputation."

A Taxibeat petition against the new legislation has garnered around 30,000 signatures. Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras has promised to bolster the tech sector and innovation, so widely available ride-sharing services would presumably help.

However, in the recent past, Greek taxi licenses cost around $235,000, so it's easy to understand why drivers might be upset. At the same time, letting Uber and other ride-sharing drivers off the hook for such fees might impact government revenue, and Greece really needs the money.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:15 pm 
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Always been a fan of having just full time driver.

Never going to happen, but hey ho.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:45 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Always been a fan of having just full time driver.

Never going to happen, but hey ho.



A few years ago you had to be full time in the trade in our district otherwise you did not get licensed,this was stopped by whom we have never found out,as far as we are aware it was never challenged.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:06 am 
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Always been a fan of having just full time driver.

Never going to happen, but hey ho.



A few years ago you had to be full time in the trade in our district otherwise you did not get licensed,this was stopped by whom we have never found out,as far as we are aware it was never challenged.

There was a legal challenge in Crawley when they brought in a full time rule.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:03 am 
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Sussex wrote:
Always been a fan of having just full time driver.

Never going to happen, but hey ho.


could you imagine what the fares would have to be to afford it ? :roll: ain't gonna happen in a free market economy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:56 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Always been a fan of having just full time driver.

Never going to happen, but hey ho.


could you imagine what the fares would have to be to afford it ? :roll: ain't gonna happen in a free market economy

Why?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:08 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Always been a fan of having just full time driver.

Never going to happen, but hey ho.


could you imagine what the fares would have to be to afford it ? :roll: ain't gonna happen in a free market economy


I would have thought getting shot of the partimers would mean more work for the rest of us.


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I would have thought getting shot of the partimers would mean more work for the rest of us.


Or simply more new full timers creating a shortage of punters all the time instead of just part of the time maybe?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:27 am 
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Or encourage owners to actually work their cabs rather than rely on others to pay their bills?

Or generate a commitment to the trade by drivers having to rely on keeping and looking after customers, rather than drivers who use the trade as a source of beer money?

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How many hours a week constitutes "full time"?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:23 am 
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Midlife martyr wrote:
edders23 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Always been a fan of having just full time driver.

Never going to happen, but hey ho.


could you imagine what the fares would have to be to afford it ? :roll: ain't gonna happen in a free market economy


I would have thought getting shot of the partimers would mean more work for the rest of us.


and if most of the full timers won't work saturday nights ?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:26 am 
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How many hours a week constitutes "full time"?

37.5.

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