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| Author: | edders23 [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Uber takes driver battle to Supreme Court |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42114851 Uber plans to take its fight over the employment status of its UK drivers to the Supreme Court. Earlier this month the Employment Appeal Tribunal rejected the ride-hailing firm's argument about the status of employees. Unions argue that staff should be classified as "workers" rather than being self-employed. Such a move would entitle them to rights such as holiday pay and sick leave. Uber could have first taken the case to the Court of Appeal. An Uber spokesman said it had requested permission to appeal directly to the Supreme Court so that the case "can be resolved sooner rather than later". Drivers James Farrar and Yaseen Aslam took a case to an employment tribunal last year, arguing they were Uber staff and entitled to holiday pay, paid rest breaks and the minimum wage. After the Employment Appeal Tribunal upheld the original tribunal ruling, Uber UK's acting general manager Tom Elvidge said: "Almost all taxi and private hire drivers have been self-employed for decades, long before our app existed. "The tribunal relies on the assertion that drivers are required to take 80% of trips sent to them when logged into the app. As drivers who use Uber know, this has never been the case in the UK." Mr Elvidge said Uber had made changes to its app to give drivers more control, as well as offering illness and injury cover. Uber is also appealing against the decision by Transport for London not to renew its a licence to operate in the capital. The body ruled in September that Uber was not fit and proper to obtain a new private hire licence. The appeal process could take months, during which time Uber can continue to operate in London. well no surprises there |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber takes driver battle to Supreme Court |
When you read the latest judgement the judge puts a lot of weight on the 80% rate that it's claimed a driver must do or else. Clearly Uber have picked up on that, as they along with most of us that follow this issue know that claim is nonsense. However there are plenty of other things that point to Uber losing, thankfully. |
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| Author: | roythebus [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber takes driver battle to Supreme Court |
I suppose if they lose at the SC their next stop will be the ECHR or ECJ? Thinking about it, the government have lost quite a few SC cases recently and have had to accept the ruling. Even then they tend to ignore it. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber takes driver battle to Supreme Court |
roythebus wrote: I suppose if they lose at the SC their next stop will be the ECHR or ECJ? Thinking about it, the government have lost quite a few SC cases recently and have had to accept the ruling. Even then they tend to ignore it. I think Uber would struggle winning anything in Europe, but maybe by the time it ever got to that stage we would be out of it anyway. However by then most of their management could be in a US jail. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... rets-trial |
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| Author: | heathcote [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber takes driver battle to Supreme Court |
Sussex wrote: roythebus wrote: I suppose if they lose at the SC their next stop will be the ECHR or ECJ? Thinking about it, the government have lost quite a few SC cases recently and have had to accept the ruling. Even then they tend to ignore it. I think Uber would struggle winning anything in Europe, but maybe by the time it ever got to that stage we would be out of it anyway. However by then most of their management could be in a US jail. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... rets-trial Still think this s**** will self explode,it would appear that non of them are fit to run a company and those investing in this lot must also be crooks otherwise they would have pulled out. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber takes driver battle to Supreme Court |
heathcote wrote: Still think this s**** will self explode,it would appear that non of them are fit to run a company and those investing in this lot must also be crooks otherwise they would have pulled out. My view is that they will run out of cash, which is why they are appearing rather desperate for the $10 billion investment from Softbank, who's latest offer is a third lower than Uber's last share offering. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber takes driver battle to Supreme Court |
Sussex wrote: heathcote wrote: Still think this s**** will self explode,it would appear that non of them are fit to run a company and those investing in this lot must also be crooks otherwise they would have pulled out. My view is that they will run out of cash, which is why they are appearing rather desperate for the $10 billion investment from Softbank, who's latest offer is a third lower than Uber's last share offering. Uber have attracted more investment than almost any other tech start up in history I do believe it genuinely is a bottomless pit of money |
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