That looks shocking.
My heart and sympathy goes to all involved and their families and friends.
Crap time of the year for it to happen.
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| Author: | jimbo [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Taxi driver and two passengers killed. |
A taxi driver and two passengers were amongst the six people killed in a crash in Birmingham earlier this morning, according to bbc news today. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taxi driver and two passengers killed. |
beat me to it but here's the link and the main article from BBC news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-42383464 Six people have been killed in a "horrific" crash in Birmingham. Three vehicles were involved in the accident on Belgrave Middleway, near Edgbaston, at about 01:00 GMT. Three men in one car died at the scene and a fourth is critically injured in hospital. The driver of a taxi and his two passengers were also killed. West Midlands Police described the scene as "very difficult and upsetting" and said officers were investigating how the crash happened. The road has been closed and police have appealed for witnesses. The first car in the crash had suffered extensive damage but, "astonishingly", the man and the woman inside managed to get out with relatively minor injuries, an ambulance service spokesman said. "The second vehicle, a black cab, was on its side. Sadly, there was nothing that could be done to save the driver and he was confirmed dead at the scene." The female passenger was also confirmed dead at the scene, while her male companion was taken to Queen Elizabeth Hospital where he died. There were four men in the third car, and all had been thrown from the vehicle, the ambulance spokesman said. "Tragically, three of them were confirmed dead at the scene." The fourth was taken to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital and is in a critical condition. Three other cars were caught up in the crash and suffered minor damage trying to avoid it. Michelle Brotherton, from the ambulance service, said her staff had dealt with 13 patients in total. As well as those who died and the man in a critical condition, four people were taken to Heartlands Hospital where their condition is believed to be non-life threatening. A further two patients were "discharged on scene". Road gritted Supt Sean Phillips said the police officer in charge of the investigation had described it as a "very harrowing scene". He said it was "too early" to speculate on the cause of the accident. "It will take some time to unpick and just understand exactly what's happened. It would be unfair for me to speculate at this time," he said. He confirmed the road had been gritted at 17:00 GMT the previous evening. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taxi driver and two passengers killed. |
That looks shocking. My heart and sympathy goes to all involved and their families and friends. Crap time of the year for it to happen.
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| Author: | edders23 [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taxi driver and two passengers killed. |
Sussex wrote: That looks shocking. My heart and sympathy goes to all involved and their families and friends. Crap time of the year for it to happen. If it is anything like my experience today then there will have been one driver getting too impatient and pulling a dangerous maneuver ......................in this case with tragic consequences |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Birmingham taxi crash |
Six dead Six people died and a seventh was in a critical condition after a “harrowing” crash involving six cars at the end of a Christmas night out in Birmingham. Three men were killed when they were thrown out of their car while a black cab driver and his two passengers, a man and woman, died when their seven-seater flipped on to its side. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... gham-crash |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
Looks like Somebody may have been going at an incredibly high speed and lost it, and by the look of the markers it was possibly the car that shot off of the far lane into the near lane, that's possibly where the bodies were ejected from when it hit the taxi.. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
the whole area has extensive CCTV coverage so the police shouldnt have much trouble checking what happened. https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding ... =wYmzRM2VD |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
a racetrack of a road and no doubt people driving beyond their capabilities. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
Watched the BBC's Ambulance program which covered this horrible incident. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09393rd |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
And it sadly appears questions are being asked about the condition of the taxi driver. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... r-14725478 |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
Quote: A toxicology report was also carried out on taxi driver, Imtiaz Mohammed’s body. A small amount of cocaine was in his system, which the toxicologist believed was consumed within 12 hours previous to the crash. Coroner Louise Hunt said the drugs found in Imtiaz Mohammed's system were not to blame. However, Mrs Hunt told the inquest she will now write to Sandwell Borough Council, where taxi driver Imtiaz Mohammed was licensed to, as well as Birmingham City Council recommending regular checks on licensed taxi drivers. She said: “I am concerned about Mr Mohammed’s toxicology and I will write to Birmingham City Council to see what monitoring can be done on taxi drivers in the future." Mrs Hunt said no blame was attributed whatsoever to Mr Mohammed for the crash but said she had to write to the authorities because of the drugs found in his system. She said: “Due to to Mr Mohammed having drugs in his system I will send a letter to Sandwell Council and Birmingham City Council asking what checks are made in regards to taxi drivers. "I want to find out what monitoring can be done on taxi drivers in the future." The coroner might as well ask what special measures are being deployed to stop taxi drivers breaking the speed limit. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
Is your taxi driver drug tested? BirminghamLive asked all major West Midlands councils https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... d-14727295 Taxi driver Imtiaz Mohammed, who died in the Belgrave Middleway tragedy, was found to have cocaine in his system The majority of councils in the West Midlands do not carry out drug tests on taxi drivers, it has been revealed. This week, the inquest into the Belgrave Middleway tragedy found how taxi driver Imtiaz Mohammed, who died alongside passengers Lucy Davis and Lee Jenkins, had traces of cocaine in his system. The fact drugs were found in the system of Mr Mohammed was revealed by Sergeant Adam Green, collision investigator, at the inquest. However, he said he did not believe this had any affect on the outcome of the collision. A toxicology report was carried out on Mr Mohammed’s body. A small amount of cocaine was in his system which the toxicologist believed was consumed within 12 hours previous to the crash. Mr Mohammed, 33, was licensed by Sandwell Council who, despite introducing a new and stricter policy in October 2017, do not test drivers for alcohol or drugs. Councillor Elaine Costigan said: “We have introduced a new licensing policy that requires more thorough checks on all drivers’ backgrounds including criminal convictions but, ultimately, we rely on the police to catch people who are driving under the influence of drink or drugs.” Birmingham City Council also carry out disclosure and barring service (DBS) checks whenever drivers apply for or renew a taxi licence. Drivers must also have a medical check, required every five years if under the age of 45 and every three years for those between 46 and 64. However, Birmingham City Council do not have a drug-testing policy in place. The same can be said of Wolverhampton City Council, which sees 40 per cent of applicants fail its taxi driver assessment process. A document obtained by BirminghamLive reads: “Any drink driving or drug related driving offence is treated very seriously by the local authority. “An offence of this nature is highly relevant to the individual’s role as a hackney carriage or private hire driver. “First offence – will normally revoke or refuse to renew. “A new licence will not normally be granted for five years following the expiration of the disqualification period or if not disqualified five years from the date of conviction, caution or in the absence of these the date of offence or relevant incident. "Repeat offences – will normally revoke or refuse to renew. “A new licence will not normally be granted for 10 years following the expiration of the last disqualification period or if not disqualified 10 years from the date of conviction, caution or in the absence of these the date of offence or relevant incident.” Meanwhile, Solihull Council is one of the few authorities in the West Midlands that carries out regular drug testing on new applicants and existing drivers. The tests are carried out by the council’s approved doctor and have been in place for some time, a spokesman told us. A document reads: “An applicant or existing driver who fails to obtain a medical certificate issued by the approved medical practitioner, due to traces of banned or illegal substances being found in their system, will be refused a licence and may not re-apply for such a licence with this authority, until a period of at least six months has elapsed. “An applicant who is subsequently granted a licence, after waiting a period of six months, due to banned or illegal substances having previously been found in their system, will be required to participate in a drugs testing programme conducted by the approved medical practitioner. “The programme will require the applicant to take a drug test each year, for the first three years that a licence is held with this authority. “Such tests will be at the expense of the individual and at a time and date arranged by the medical practitioner. After a period of three years has elapsed, the normal drugs testing procedures will be invoked. “Failure of any medical examination or drugs test will result in the immediate suspension of that driver’s licence, until such time as the matter is resolved, or considered by a committee of this authority.” Elsewhere, Dudley councillor Karen Shakespeare said: “We work to ensure people are as safe as possible when using taxis and have robust systems with rigorous background checks in place for anyone who applies to hold a taxi licence here in Dudley borough. “All drivers are regularly checked against the Disclosure and Baring Service (DBS) and any complaints or allegations are thoroughly investigated.” Walsall Council has also contacted for their respective taxi licensing policies. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
StuartW wrote: Councillor Elaine Costigan said: “We have introduced a new licensing policy that requires more thorough checks on all drivers’ backgrounds including criminal convictions but, ultimately, we rely on the police to catch people who are driving under the influence of drink or drugs.” It is a valid point in my view. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
Drug testing for taxi drivers plan after fatal Belgrave Middleway crash https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/r ... n-14810141 The taxi driver who died was found to have cocaine in his system Drug testing for taxi drivers in Birmingham has moved a step closer following a tragic road collision where six people were killed. Inquests into the victims who died in the crash at Belgrave Middleway on December 17 heard that one of them, taxi driver Imtiaz Mohammed, aged 33, had cocaine in his system although it was not said to have caused the incident. Senior Coroner Louise Hunt subsequently wrote to Birmingham City Council as well as Sandwell Borough Council - which had issued his hackney carriage licence - expressing concerns there was no drug testing policy in place at either authority. In her letter she said: "The level of cocaine metabolite would have resulted in the deceased being over the legal drug drive limit. This did not contribute to this collision. "However West Midlands Police raised concerns at the inquest that there was presently no system in place to monitor and check whether taxi drivers are over the drug limit whilst driving. "They confirmed in evidence that some sort of testing was required for the safety of passengers. "In my opinion action should be taken to prevent future deaths and I believe you have the power to take such action." This week Birmingham City Council's licensing and public protection committee approved a proposal for officers to produce a draft drugs testing policy for drivers. Questions were asked about how it might be implemented while Manawar Hussain, from T.O.A. Taxis stated it would have an impact on drivers. But Emma Rohomon, acting head of licensing, said the details would not be known until the policy had been drawn up stating it would be brought back to the committee who could reject it if it was not feasible. She added the council was under a legal obligation to respond to the coroner's letter. Imtiaz Mohammed was killed alongside his two passengers Lucy Davis, 43, and her partner Lee Jenkins, 42, when the taxi was hit by a speeding Audi travelling in the opposite direction. Three of the four people in the Audi, driver Kasar Jehangir, 25, Mohammed Fahsha, 30, and Tauqeer Hussain, 26, were also killed while fourth man Zakkria Khan, 18, survived. The coroner ruled the collision was caused by the excessive speed of the Audi which was estimated to be travelling between 94mph to 100mph on the 40mph route. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Birmingham taxi crash |
The coroner ruled the collision was caused by the excessive speed of the Audi which was estimated to be travelling between 94mph to 100mph on the 40mph route. I don't think even if the taxi/ph had no traces of drugs in his blood stream that the outcome would have been different Driving wrecklessly at that speed ought to be considered a terrorist offence not a speeding offence as the chances of NOT causing a serious accident are almost Nil The driver was clearly trying to kill or seriously injure himself or others |
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