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They did not have driving licences or driving tests in 1847.....

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Is the right answer....

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Former taxi driver

Heathcote and Jimbo which bit of this clause do you not understand could it be this bit

Proprietor to retain licences of drivers when in his employ

I DON'T EMPLOY ANYONE I do rent cars out to SELF EMPLOYED drivers

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I love the English language. It has so many words which enable us to communicate with each other. For example - driving licence, which to me means the national licence you acquire by passing a driving test, which is yours and nobody elses, and has to stay in your possession. And then there is a hackney or private hire driving licence which is required for a driver already holding a British driving licence. Now some councils, not all, require a Ph/ hackney proprietor to keep hold of the hackney licence of any driver who is driving his vehicle, but Sussex refers to a driving licence which is why I said no, no, no, no. If he had said hackney/ph licence then I obviously would have replied differently, but because I was bored I decided to nitpick.

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Some times your nit picking stimulates conversation on here as it is obvious quite a few contributors do not understand the Regulations we work under,for example;renting TAXI (hackney carriage)to a driver does not mean that section 48 relieves the proprietor from abiding by it.

Your paraphrasing of the act would be the death of you in a court of law, young Edders.

“PERMITS OR EMPLOYS” I mean, you do permit your serfs to drive the cars you rent to them, don’t you?

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serfs ????

this isn't 18th century Russia

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The act says permits or employs.


48 Proprietor to retain licences of drivers, and to produce the same before justices
on complaint In every case in which the proprietor of any such hackney carriage permits
or employs any licensed person to act as the driver thereof, such proprietor shall cause to
be delivered to him, and shall retain in his possession, the licence of such driver, while
such driver remains in his employ; and in all cases of complaint, where the proprietor of a
hackney carriage is summoned to attend before a justice, or to produce the driver, the
proprietor so summoned shall also produce the licence of such driver, if he be then in his
employ; and if any driver complained of be adjudged guilty of the offence alleged against
him, such justice shall make an endorsement upon the licence of such driver, stating the
nature of the offence and amount of the penalty inflicted; and if any such proprietor
neglect to have delivered to him and to retain in his possession the licence of any driver
while such driver remains in his employ, or if he refuse or neglect to produce such
licence as aforesaid, such proprietor shall for every such offence be liable to a penalty not
exceeding [level 1 on the standard scale].

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I thought I would use 19th century terminology because we are discussing a 19th century LAW.

Many think that the badge is the most important legal requirement. It isn’t. It’s the paper licence.

Which must be retained by the proprietor.

But serf is a fair analogy for someone who rents a plated vehicle. You could take it off them anytime you felt like it. After all, they’re not employed by you, are they?

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I thought I would use 19th century terminology because we are discussing a 19th century LAW.

Many think that the badge is the most important legal requirement. It isn’t. It’s the paper licence.

Which must be retained by the proprietor.

But serf is a fair analogy for someone who rents a plated vehicle. You could take it off them anytime you felt like it. After all, they’re not employed by you, are they?

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Former taxi driver

So good I said it twice.

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Former taxi driver

Not sure if the word 'employ' is of huge significance anyway, and doubt if it has any relevance in the employee/freelancer context.

Reading the section above, it says 'permits or employs' initially but later simply says 'remains in employ'.

Which maybe suggests that 'permits or employs' is simply referring to much the same thing, but using slightly different words to ensure it covers everything. So suspect all it means is that if someone other than the proprietor is driving the HC then the proprietor must retain the driver's licence.

Of course, no doubt there is case law saying something completely different

Nothing that I have read.

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