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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:24 am 
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More than 1,000 Transport for London (TfL)-registered private hire drivers have addresses as far away as Bradford and Cardiff.

Letters released by the Mayor of London's Office show there were 747 TfL-registered minicab drivers in Birmingham and 378 in Bristol.

It means local councils in those areas have no control over drivers' licensing or the number on their roads.
Sadiq Khan has asked the government for greater licensing powers.

He is calling on the Department for Transport (DfT) for powers to cut the number of licences issued in London and for minicab journeys to begin or end where the driver is registered.
The DfT said it was monitoring concerns about private hire licensing.

Analysis: BBC London Transport Correspondent Tom Edwards

It will come as no surprise to many that minicab regulations are again being shown up as unfit for purpose.

There is meant to be something called a "triple licensing lock" where a job from a passenger can only be accepted if the vehicle, the driver and the booking are under the jurisdiction of the same authority - in this case TfL.

But the lock doesn't work anymore, because minicab apps like Uber means drivers can quite legitimately live and work anywhere in the UK even though they are registered under TfL. You can use the Uber app anywhere to find a car: in the past you'd ring a local number or go to a local shop.
We now have a situation where local authorities across the country, as far north as Blackburn, Bradford and York, have no jurisdiction over TfL minicabs in their own towns.

TfL has even sent officials to places such as Brighton because there are so many TfL drivers there.
The mayor wants a change in the law so the journey has to start or end in the area the minicab is licensed. But at the moment, technology has again outpaced regulation.

London-registered drivers are living far from the capital

A TfL map included in the letters, and released after a BBC freedom of information request, shows how far these drivers are from the capital.

Steve Wright, chairman of the Licensed Private Hire Car Association, criticised the mayor's proposed ban on cross-border hiring, saying it would make the current situation worse.

"It would be overly prohibitive, and wouldn't solve the problem of app users showing themselves available in areas far from where they are licensed," he said.
"It would also have a catastrophic effect on the environment, as drivers would have to return to the area they were registered to start new jobs, leading to them driving many dead miles."

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:51 pm 
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It's abundantly clear that 1000s of drivers are licensing in London with no intention whatsoever of working there.

Until the 14th of March that is. :D

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What about all the London hackney drivers who live on the south coast? There's at least 6 who live in New Romney, some 84 miles from London.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:57 pm 
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We have one that is northern Ireland.....sefton..

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:59 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
What about all the London hackney drivers who live on the south coast? There's at least 6 who live in New Romney, some 84 miles from London.


But presumably they are still working in London? Problem addressed in article is that TfL-licensed drivers are working permanently in places like Sheffield.

Of course, a London HC driver is free to join a PH or HC circuit in New Romney and do only pre-booked work, but doubt if that happens very often.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:53 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
What about all the London hackney drivers who live on the south coast? There's at least 6 who live in New Romney, some 84 miles from London.

Not sure anyone cares where people live, especially the courts.

It's where they want to work.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:30 am 
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I know a TFL Hackney driver who lives in Spain.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:51 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
roythebus wrote:
What about all the London hackney drivers who live on the south coast? There's at least 6 who live in New Romney, some 84 miles from London.


But presumably they are still working in London? Problem addressed in article is that TfL-licensed drivers are working permanently in places like Sheffield.

Of course, a London HC driver is free to join a PH or HC circuit in New Romney and do only pre-booked work, but doubt if that happens very often.
No, because there's no circuits here to join! The nearest is Folkestone, about 12 miles away or Ashford, 14 miles!


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