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| Author: | ALI T [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | victory edinburgh |
well thats another case been thrown out of court. sheriff liddle today denied the council the right to ammend thier crave. resulting in a win for me. 
of course the council have intimated they will appeall. but that was always on the cards. a massive big thank you to all who have helped and supported me on this action. you know who you are. regards ali turnbull 
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: victory edinburgh |
ALI T wrote: well thats another case been thrown out of court.
sheriff liddle today denied the council the right to ammend thier crave. resulting in a win for me. of course the council have intimated they will appeall. but that was always on the cards. a massive big thank you to all who have helped and supported me on this action. you know who you are. regards ali turnbull Yahoo...piece of [edited by admin]
Don't think the fastblack boy will be too chuffed though 
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| Author: | NF [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:27 pm ] |
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Well done. The administrative shambles that passes for CEC licensing and legal services depts should finally realise that the problem is their own inability to apply the legislation, rather than the court's inability to apply the law. I say they should, but I know they won't. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: victory edinburgh |
ALI T wrote: well thats another case been thrown out of court.
sheriff liddle today denied the council the right to ammend thier crave. resulting in a win for me. of course the council have intimated they will appeall. but that was always on the cards. a massive big thank you to all who have helped and supported me on this action. you know who you are. 
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| Author: | JD [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:29 pm ] |
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I would like to think this is a victory for the human right of every applicant in Scotland to have his or her application considered in line with what the legislation demands. I am pleased the court ruled that the right of the applicant to have his application determined within the six month statutory period enshrined in Scottish law outweighed the preference of Edinburgh city council to extend the consideration period even further. It is most unfortunate that 3maxblack came up against a Sheriff whose judgement is now looking increasingly unreliable. I am quite sure, that time will prove this to be the case. I think you need congratulating for sticking to your principles and having the wisdom to believe that you had the moral high ground in this application and that you also had belief in the solidity of your legal case. You also deserve congratulating for conducting the case yourself, especially when you consider you were up against a QC. And I think congratulations should also go to those who stood by you in the interest of Justice. Good Luck, the plate is now yours, it is no longer yours to win, it is now up to others to try and take it away from you and that will be no easy task. Regards JD |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:48 pm ] |
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Yes, well done to Ali T. 
One for the real drivers, and an own goal for the vested interests and the Edinburgh Establishment. 
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| Author: | Skull [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:46 am ] |
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Has everyone had a look on the Fastblacks forum? They are jumping all over the place. Can't think why? 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:05 am ] |
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Skull wrote: Has everyone had a look on the Fastblacks forum?
They are jumping all over the place. Can't think why? What they seem to be missing is that drivers legally applied for licenses, the council didn't determine those applications in time, thus the courts have granted them. Those at fault, if anyone is, are the council, but they know if they have a pop at the council there is every chance they will de-limit.
But well done to Ali and his mates, it takes a lot of bottle to front up in court against the so-called professionals. The crazy thing is that if no-one objected to the original applications, then all that would have happened would have been the issuing of 50 odd plates. With all this grief and huge costs, the council is more than likely to de-limit.
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| Author: | jasbar [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Well Done Ali T. |
If proof were needed of the justification of Ali Turnbull's case, then the fact that he represented himself, faced by a skilled legal practioner, and he won, then this is it. This is the clearest proof that the status quo is unacceptable. The Courts recognise this. The Council has to recognise this. It's just the trade which refuses to recognise it. And the trade may already be too late. Concentrating on petty squabbles, determined to shoot the messenger, the senile rantings of the scared rabbits on this site may just have muddied the waters sufficiently to herald the disaster they say they don't want. There has never been a more preposterous proposition that two taxi drivers could bend the will of the Council to embark on policies which they have stoically resisted. De-restriction and a wholesale rewriting of the conditions of fitness. It was a daunting experience for Ali Turnbull. But he's borne the burden with honesty, integrity and dogged determination, in the face of an unprecedented onslaught by the trade. And for what? Because he refused to accept being cannon fodder for greedy owners who hike plate values and hike rentals ever higher. Ali is right to shun such outrageous practices. It is right that our Labour council should play its part in bringing our trade into the 21st century. Ali is a hero to the cause. But it isn't two cabbies that brought this about. It's a nationwide concerted effort which is simply asking that the Laws of the land apply equally to our taxi trade here in Edinburgh. This is why it has become the certainty it is. The Law is right. CEC is right to apply it. It is to their credit that they are in the process of doing so, not to their credit however how they're doing so. Nevertheless, the next chapter is beginning, and the Ali Turnbull's of this world will be able to meet the needs of the market in more cost effective vehicles, able to contain their costs and address the really important people, the customers. Not once throughout the campaign have any of our detractors ever given any thought to the needs of the customers. Because, they don't really care about them. The trade believes that customers merely exist to give them their living; they exist to serve the trade. This is outrageous, the very reason why there's been a wholesale shift away from quantity to quality controls in the first place. Delimitation works in London, and elsewhere. It's just happened in Aberdeen. It is going to happen everywhere in our nation. It is happening here, and it will work. There may be some pain in the short term, this would have been reduced had the trade recognised the merits of the argument and taken the necessary steps to become involved. It hasn't, so more pain than necessary may be experienced. But, it will come good. Enthusiasm for the change will help. New thinking about meeting the needs of our market will reap rewards more quickly for those who seriously think about their business. The losers should be Private Hire. More taxis will render their service less necessary. But, we should all be aware that they have grown from seagulling, green Sierras to a highly sophisticated fleet of comfortable people carriers. They've already demonstrated they can respond to market needs and meet those needs appropriately. They're experienced in free market thinking. They will not be competed against lightly, they will have every incentive to become even better. The challenge is ours. We can remain a trade where any dissenting voice is censored, or be can be like Ali Turnbull, prepared to meet the challenge head on, and prosper. Well done Ali. Your indomitable spirit through difficult, and expensive, times serves you credit. You took up the challenge and met it head on, in the face of widespread opposition. Well done Ali. 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:38 pm ] |
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And it's not just Ali that had a good day. 
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/viewartic ... ?id=334149 |
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| Author: | Guest [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:16 pm ] |
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really there shouldnt be a problrem. licensed cab driver wants a licensed cab to own and drive. exactly what is wrong with that? 
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