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President of the IoL, James Button, said: ‘These guidelines are the result of over two years work by the working party, which recognised there was a clear need for up-to-date guidance to assist local authorities in determining whether a person was safe and suitable to hold a hackney carriage or private hire licence.

edders23 wrote:

Dealt with in another thread in licensing forum, but in respect of the above quote I wonder how many licensed drivers contributed to this guidance?

Methinks none. :sad:

Is the IoL nothing to with the government but rather a private group trying to make money out of their own ideas and then try to sell them on as if they were Genuine Government Ideas from an official Government body? I'm sure this lot have have had some mad cap ideas before that no official body ever took on board.

Or am I totally wrong..they are Government.

i think that's a fair assessment BUT if they come up with something like this their members will all follow so half the councils in the UK will probably adopt this

Is the IoL nothing to do with the government but rather a private group trying to make money out of their own ideas and then try to sell them on as if they were Genuine Government Ideas from an official Government body? I'm sure this lot have have had some mad cap ideas before that no official body ever took on board.

Or am I totally wrong..they are Government.

Author:	edders23 [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:47 pm ]
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but will it make a difference A new guide to help local authorities decide if someone should be granted a taxi or private hire licence has been published today by the Institute of Licensing (IoL). The exploitation uncovered in Rotherham and other areas has highlighted the ‘potentially catastrophic consequences’ of inadequate vetting of licence holders. The guidance aims to provide a level of consistency and stop applictants from ‘shopping’ between authorities. The guidance, which can be used alongside a council’s own local policy, considers how the history of the applicant or licence holder is relevant to their ‘suitability’. This includes previous convictions and any other information discovered by the licensing authority. President of the IoL, James Button, said: ‘These guidelines are the result of over two years work by the working party, which recognised there was a clear need for up-to-date guidance to assist local authorities in determining whether a person was safe and suitable to hold a hackney carriage or private hire licence. ‘They will enable local authorities to promote high standards, for the benefit of their communities and visitors, and will also assist in the creation of a more consistent approach across England and Wales. I would urge local authorities to adopt them.’ The guide has been produced in partnership with the Local Government Association (LGA), National Association of Licensing and Enforcement Officers (NALEO) and Lawyers in Local Government (LLG). Tim Briton, national licensing lead for LLG, added: ‘The Deregulation Act 2015 drove a coach and horses through that local control, and councils now struggle with the influx of drivers and vehicles licensed elsewhere but working in their area. It cannot be right that a person who has had their licence revoked by one council can get licensed elsewhere by a council with a lower threshold for “acceptable” criminal conduct. ‘This guidance will go a long way to stamping out this practice, by providing a much needed national benchmark.’

Author:	Sussex [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:16 pm ]
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edders23 wrote: President of the IoL, James Button, said: ‘These guidelines are the result of over two years work by the working party, which recognised there was a clear need for up-to-date guidance to assist local authorities in determining whether a person was safe and suitable to hold a hackney carriage or private hire licence. Dealt with in another thread in licensing forum, but in respect of the above quote I wonder how many licensed drivers contributed to this guidance? Methinks none.

Author:	heathcote [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:38 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: edders23 wrote: President of the IoL, James Button, said: ‘These guidelines are the result of over two years work by the working party, which recognised there was a clear need for up-to-date guidance to assist local authorities in determining whether a person was safe and suitable to hold a hackney carriage or private hire licence. Dealt with in another thread in licensing forum, but in respect of the above quote I wonder how many licensed drivers contributed to this guidance? Methinks none. I think you are right.

Author:	bloodnock [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:42 pm ]
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Is the IoL nothing to do with the government but rather a private group trying to make money out of their own ideas and then try to sell them on as if they were Genuine Government Ideas from an official Government body? I'm sure this lot have have had some mad cap ideas before that no official body ever took on board. Or am I totally wrong..they are Government.

Author:	edders23 [ Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:48 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: Is the IoL nothing to with the government but rather a private group trying to make money out of their own ideas and then try to sell them on as if they were Genuine Government Ideas from an official Government body? I'm sure this lot have have had some mad cap ideas before that no official body ever took on board. Or am I totally wrong..they are Government. i think that's a fair assessment BUT if they come up with something like this their members will all follow so half the councils in the UK will probably adopt this

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Author:	Sussex [ Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:31 pm ]
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edders23 wrote: i think that's a fair assessment BUT if they come up with something like this their members will all follow so half the councils in the UK will probably adopt this Not sure there is an awful lot of love between NALEO and the IoL, so maybe not. In fact the two LO's I've spoken to on this subject, from two different councils, find significant parts of it unworkable.

Author:	StuartW [ Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:51 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: Is the IoL nothing to do with the government but rather a private group trying to make money out of their own ideas and then try to sell them on as if they were Genuine Government Ideas from an official Government body? I'm sure this lot have have had some mad cap ideas before that no official body ever took on board. Or am I totally wrong..they are Government. The IoL is a representative organisation mainly for enforcement officers, lawyers and senior staff involved in council licensing functions, so although it's not a public body, it does in the main represent officialdom involved in government activity. So although it's not some sort of independent think tank or the like, it's not quite an official government organisation either, but maybe something between the two. Indeed, it's perhaps instructive that, as far as I know, the IoL's president James Button is a solicitor working in the private sector, so to that degree it's totally unofficial. But it's hardly some madcap private sector organisation taking a passing interest in licensing which can be largely ignored.

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