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Author:  StuartW [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:50 am ]
Post subject:  Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteers
Speedwatch row taxi driver: 'I did not flick V sign or use foul language - I was just asking a question'

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/st ... -i-1672594

Cabbie Waheed Ahmed has now given his version of events

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A taxi driver accused of acting in an aggressive way towards volunteers catching speeding motorists claims he was 'just asking a question'.

A community speedwatch team alerted the police after a cabbie was 'verbally hostile, stuck his fingers up at them and even followed them' around the back streets of Hartshill.

But cabbie Waheed Ahmed disagrees with their version of Sunday afternoon's events and insists he just wanted to know more about what they were doing after their high-vis jackets and speed gun caught his attention.

The 30-year-old, of Longton, said: "It's the first time I've seen them, they were a bunch of old folks at the side of the road so I asked them about how fast someone has to go. I told them I had the right to ask a question but the man thought I was being foul-mouthed.

"I did not use any foul language because I am not that sort of person. I asked a simple question and the woman was talking to me but the man came over and confronted me.

"I was given a leaflet and drove off. I saw them twice more but they rang the police and said I was following them. I am a taxi driver so was just doing my job."

The incident, which took place in Hartshill Road at 4.50pm on Sunday (June 10), was also reported to Stoke-on-Trent City Council’s licensing department.

Waheed confirmed the police spoke to him about his conduct but no further action was taken.

He added: "The police officers came and spoke to me but it was just my word against theirs. They said I put my fingers up at them and that I was a taxi driver, but what has that got to do with it? Anyone could have stopped and asked a question.

"They are just picking on me because I am a taxi driver."

Previously Barbara Andrews, co-ordinator of the group which monitors traffic in Stoke, Hartshill, Basford and Penkhull, said: “There were double 'V' signs and he swerved around to pull up in front of us on double yellow lines. He was very verbally hostile and he tried to follow us home, pursuing us through the streets of Hartshill.

"This man is in charge of a public service vehicle. It made us quite alarmed for anyone who would get into his vehicle."

Police officers confirmed they had spoken to the driver.

Peter Johnson, enforcement manager at Staffordshire Police, said: “At 4.50pm on Sunday we received a report of a taxi driver acting in an aggressive manner towards Community Speedwatch Volunteers at their site in Hartshill Road.

“Local officers located the taxi driver and advice was given in regards to his behaviour. No further action was taken as per the request of those involved.
Author:  StuartW [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clash with ''British bulldog" Speedwatch vo
Interesting quote from the first piece a few hours earlier:

Stoke Speedwatch co-ordinator wrote:
"The county Speedwatch co-ordinator rang and said 'I hope you won't be put off' and I said not at all - we're British bulldogs. It did put the wind up us for quarter of an hour - it isn't very pleasant to be followed by someone who did not mean us any good - but most people are very supportive.”


In other circumstances you could just imagine someone referring to 'British bulldogs' in this way being accused of racism (another taxi driver, say), particularly as the driver in question is presumably from an ethnic minority. [-(
Author:  edders23 [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
we used to get a load of these in ketton

first time I was doing about 35 and got a letter from the police claiming i was doping 40mph

2nd time I passed them had speed at 31 mph didn't see gun being pointed at me and they were huddled round a clipboard got a letter from police saying I was doing 40mph

3rd time again on the speed limit no gun to be seen at all and huddled around clipboard again a letter saying i was doing 40mph

they were making it up !!!!!
Author:  bloodnock [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:37 am ]
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Leave speed enforcement to the police, if you hand it to a bunch of zealots who by nature only took the roll on through their biased dislike of car drivers and along with it an over inflated sense of self importance then you are only going to create friction between the motorists and these self righteous busy bodies.

Bright eyed and bushy tailed trouble makers I'm afraid no matter how well intended they profess to be.
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:24 am ]
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The driver should have just driven past and got on with his job and his life.

Leave the so called do gooders to do what they want, but don’t feed the trolls, for want of a better phrase.
Author:  bloodnock [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
Sussex wrote:
The driver should have just driven past and got on with his job and his life.

Leave the so called do gooders to do what they want, but don’t feed the trolls, for want of a better phrase.


What trolls would that be?
Author:  sasha [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:17 pm ]
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StuartW wrote:
“Local officers located the taxi driver and advice was given in regards to his behaviour. No further action was taken as per the request of those involved.
No. No action was taken because no offence had been commited :roll:
Author:  roythebus [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:55 pm ]
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Interesting fact, that when "speed campaigners" get a speed trap in their village, the first few to get caught are the very same campaigners.
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
bloodnock wrote:
Sussex wrote:
The driver should have just driven past and got on with his job and his life.

Leave the so called do gooders to do what they want, but don’t feed the trolls, for want of a better phrase.


What trolls would that be?

The do gooders who want a reaction and some idiot to feed them so they can make a new article for the press.
Author:  bloodnock [ Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
Sussex wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Sussex wrote:
The driver should have just driven past and got on with his job and his life.

Leave the so called do gooders to do what they want, but don’t feed the trolls, for want of a better phrase.


What trolls would that be?

The do gooders who want a reaction and some idiot to feed them so they can make a new article for the press.


The self-righteous within communities seems to have the rare ability to both feed and gorge themselves on their own piety.
Author:  Nidge2 [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
I've had loads of running's with them tree huggers round here, I stopped and asked them who was the data holder for the images and the information recorded on that digital device? They phoned the police and asked them for assistance because they said I "was being aggressive."

The Police came and talked to the speed watch then, they came to me and said I was being aggressive towards them. I showed the police my phone because I'd recorded the whole incident unbeknown to the speed watch tree huggers.


I asked the police who was the data holder? They got in touch with their control room and they said the Chief Inspector was the licensed data holder. I then asked them, "shouldn't the Chief Inspector be in attendance when non police staff are using an imaging device."they got back in touch with their control room and after a few minutes replied with, yes he does."


The police then told the speed watch people to pack up for the day, they packed up and got into their cars when one of them screeched his wheels and roared off, you could make it up.


Nothing more was done by the police but, the speed watch tree huggers tried to get in touch with the council to complain to them.
Author:  grandad [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
Nidge2 wrote:


I asked the police who was the data holder? They got in touch with their control room and they said the Chief Inspector was the licensed data holder. I then asked them, "shouldn't the Chief Inspector be in attendance when non police staff are using an imaging device."they got back in touch with their control room and after a few minutes replied with, yes he does."



I am the data controller for our company, Does that mean that I should be present in all our cars that have CCTV?
Author:  heathcote [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 am ]
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grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:


I asked the police who was the data holder? They got in touch with their control room and they said the Chief Inspector was the licensed data holder. I then asked them, "shouldn't the Chief Inspector be in attendance when non police staff are using an imaging device."they got back in touch with their control room and after a few minutes replied with, yes he does."



I am the data controller for our company, Does that mean that I should be present in all our cars that have CCTV?



Your staff are in attendance(driver of each vehicle)when cctv is in use,so No you do not need to be present.
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:


I asked the police who was the data holder? They got in touch with their control room and they said the Chief Inspector was the licensed data holder. I then asked them, "shouldn't the Chief Inspector be in attendance when non police staff are using an imaging device."they got back in touch with their control room and after a few minutes replied with, yes he does."



I am the data controller for our company, Does that mean that I should be present in all our cars that have CCTV?


Under these new GDPR regulations who knows, they are about as clear as mud and i'm not sure any organisation in Britain fully understands them or complies.

Contrary to how things normally works the GDPR is not a" Means to an End"...It is more an "End to a Means", I've never had so much invasive clutter from people and companies I don't know asking for my permission to access their sites which I never even new existed, now how does that Protect my rights to remain anonymous, It certainly does not seem to protect my Email address nor my Mobile number from unsolicited emails or Texts.???

And I thought the whole Idea was that you can opt out of their Data base, I can't see how that can work when you have to agree to all their demands before you can actually log in to their websites to let them know you don't wish them to retain your details on their Data Base unless it's essential Information for Tax purposes or such like....your Damned if you do and your damned if you don't.
Author:  bloodnock [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stoke driver clashes with 'British' Speedwatch volunteer
heathcote wrote:
grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:


I asked the police who was the data holder? They got in touch with their control room and they said the Chief Inspector was the licensed data holder. I then asked them, "shouldn't the Chief Inspector be in attendance when non police staff are using an imaging device."they got back in touch with their control room and after a few minutes replied with, yes he does."



I am the data controller for our company, Does that mean that I should be present in all our cars that have CCTV?



Your staff are in attendance(driver of each vehicle)when cctv is in use,so No you do not need to be present.


Is that the Difference between being a Data processor and a Data Controller?
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