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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:54 am 
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LTDA give evidence to police in relation to claims that ex-Uber General Manager “misled” the High Court

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/single-pos ... High-Court

The Licensed Taxi Drivers Association have today submitted evidence to police officers in relation to an allegation that Uber’s ex-employee, Jo Bertram had ‘misled’ a High Court hearing.

The interview with the Metropolitan Police Homicide and Serious Crime Command was conducted in front of the LTDA’s legal representatives and centred around an allegation that false information had been given by Uber’s then regional general manager for Northern Europe Jo Bertram.

The alleged false information was claimed to have been given during a High Court ruling involving the classification of Uber’s ‘meter’ back in 2015.

Lord Justice Ouseley ruled that the ride-hailing app was not to be classified as a taximeter and that the app should be ruled legal in the capital.

Had Uber lost the case brought forward by the regulator Transport for London the firm would have had no choice but to change its service as only licensed taxis are able to use taximeters.

The LTDA first made a complaint in September 2017 when Uber lost its operators licence in London.

According to an LTDA spokesperson “It became clear from Helen Chapman’s statement over TfL’s refusal to licence Uber that TfL thought Jo Bertram either did not know how Uber’s app worked or misled the court in the meter case.”

The Metropolitan Police have waited until now, after Uber’s recent successful licensing appeal decision, to interview LTDA General Secretary Steve McNamara.

Steve McNamara said “During the police interview officers requested copies of evidence from the meter case, the record of Judge Arbuthnot comments and a statement from me laying it all out. LTDA solicitors were present during my interview.”

The LTDA General Secretary added “The next step is that Police submit preliminaries to CPS to see if there is prima facie case and to get the go ahead to carry on.”


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The Metropolitan Police have waited until now, after Uber’s recent successful licensing appeal decision, to interview LTDA General Secretary Steve McNamara.

Does beg the question as to why it took so long to start the formal investigation.

Especially when the person involved left Uber 10 months ago?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:07 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
The Metropolitan Police have waited until now, after Uber’s recent successful licensing appeal decision, to interview LTDA General Secretary Steve McNamara.

Does beg the question as to why it took so long to start the formal investigation.

Especially when the person involved left Uber 10 months ago?



CPS will back heel it as they will not want to go against the Chief Magistrates decision in the 2 recent court cases.Again the Establishment will s*** on the trade.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:10 pm 
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CPS will back heel it as they will not want to go against the Chief Magistrates decision in the 2 recent court cases.Again the Establishment will s*** on the trade.

I don't think the recent appeal has any bearing on what was said in the High Court.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:22 am 
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heathcote wrote:

CPS will back heel it as they will not want to go against the Chief Magistrates decision in the 2 recent court cases.Again the Establishment will s*** on the trade.


To be fair, if the Met are considering going after people who have misled a court of law then suspect they'd have much bigger fish to fry, and will view this matter as more of a licensing technicality not worth bothering about.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:09 am 
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Thought as much [-(

Perjury Let-off for ex-Uber Boss

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/single-pos ... xUber-Boss

Uber’s former UK boss has escaped being prosecuted for perjury despite her court evidence being proven to be false.

Jo Bertram, who now works for O2, told the High Court the firm’s central computers accept the bookings which are passed to its drivers, when the reverse was true.

The truth made Uber’s business model unlawful in London, as its drivers were plying for hire and accepting work not through a licensed operator.

It is one of the central reasons cited by TfL for refusing the company’s licence renewal in 2017 – although it controversially won it back this year.

At the time, TfL said it believed “the point is determinative and that Uber’s current operating model is accordingly unlawful.”

It added that even if it was wrong about that, the “materially false and misleading” information it and the court had been given by Uber was one of three factors that made the company “not fit and proper” to hold an operator’s licence.

However, police have bizarrely decided not to press ahead with charging Bertram, claiming that her statement had no effect on the final decision.

Detective Inspector Gail Granville said: “I do not believe that the disputed claim was material fact in the civil court proceedings.”

This runs contrary to the claims of TfL, which said it believed that had Uber told the truth, its operating model would probably have been found “unlawful” in the 2015 High Court action.

The regulator accused the company of giving “false” evidence to win the case.

Uber told Mr Justice Ouseley, that its central computer systems, not individual drivers, handled all bookings and fares.

It had told TfL the same thing many times. An investigation later revealed the company’s central computers accepted a booking only after a driver had done so.

In its letter dismissing the case, the Met says that the case does not meet the CPS Charging Standard, which requires that the evidence is “exceptionally strong.”

It also says that charges of Perverting the Course of Justice are reserved for “serious cases of interference with justice.”

DI Granville said: “Although the evidence of Bertram was in incorrect, there is no evidence to show that she had ‘deliberately’ misled the court. For the offence to be made out there must be evidence of falsity. Being mistaken, or being unable to recall, does not itself mean an offence of perjury or perverting the course has been committed.”
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Article is from latest edition of LTDA's 'Taxi' publication. This includes a copy of the Met's letter (or at least most of it) so anyone who feels the need to read it can download Taxi from here (page 5), although the LTDA's article above tells you all you really need to know:

https://www.taxinewspaper.co.uk/assets/ ... xi_432.pdf


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:11 am 
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The truth made Uber’s business model unlawful in London, as its drivers were plying for hire and accepting work not through a licensed operator.


Not sure it follows that Uber drivers were plying for hire.

Uber either in breach of op's licence or drivers accepting hires without an op's licence, but not plying for hire [-X


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:27 am 
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Sounds like some brown envelopes have been passed over.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:23 pm 
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That’s a5 sized brown envelopes stuffed like a turkey


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:09 pm 
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However, police have bizarrely decided not to press ahead with charging Bertram, claiming that her statement had no effect on the final decision.

Of course it did. She said they were acting legally, when it fact it was the reverse.

Thank goodness the London lads have got a Judicial Review on this whole sorry mess.

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Not sure it follows that Uber drivers were plying for hire.

Indeed, the drivers were receiving unbooked work, not plying.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:31 pm 
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It's difficult trying to battle against oxbridge when they all know each other and have the same (monetary) interests .


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