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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:01 am 
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No wonder they can't get agreement on a uniform tariff - the five mile T2 fare in the dearest zone is double what it is in the cheapest :shock:

Interesting wee tables though, showing the flagfall and charges for trips up to five mile at each tariff. The figures in bold are the highest at each mileage.

Also interesting from the point of view of PHTM-style tables - if you want to use one trip to construct the table then as the figures here demonstrate you could use that to say that *any* of the six zones has the highest fares.

For example, the T1 2-mile Carrick run is the highest for that distance across Cornwall at £7.30, and indeed puts it eighth in the PHTM table for the whole UK.

But as the tables below demonstrate, that's the only trip on which Carrick is the highest in Cornwall. On Mondays to Saturdays Kerrier tends to have the highest fares overall, and in fact the 5-mile T2 run is nearly £31 as opposed to just over £20 in Carrick.


Where taxis are the cheapest and most expensive in Cornwall

https://www.cornwalllive.com/taxis-chea ... ll-2740489

There are currently six different sets of taxi fares in Cornwall which date from the former district and borough councils being the licensing authorities

The latest bid to set a single set of taxi fares for the whole of Cornwall looks unlikely to succeed after cabbies raised objections.

There are currently six different sets of taxi fares in Cornwall which date from the former district and borough councils being the licensing authorities.

When the single Cornwall Council was formed it was anticipated that a single set of fares would be put in place across the county.

However, ten years later, despite numerous attempts, it has not been possible to come up with a scheme of fares that everyone agrees with.

Licensing officers had been asked by the council's miscellaneous licensing committee to draw up a single tariff for all six zones in consultation with Hackney carriage drivers.

But a mixed response from the various cabbies' forums has meant that the committee will have to now decide whether to go ahead with trying to get a single fare system in place.

The Carrick and Restormel forum did not support a single countywide tariff, with one of the concerns being that taxi drivers would be able to operate across the whole of Cornwall.

In Caradon and North Cornwall taxi drivers were not concerned about a single tariff but only if it was higher and not less than the current tariffs in the area. Although one member said that it was a "waste of taxpayers' money" to try to come up with a single tariff when the existing ones work.

The Kerrier forum indicated that it would be happy with a single tariff, but in Penwith drivers did not think it was a good idea.

Information provided for the committee when it meets on Friday shows the differences between charges in the different areas.

Monday to Saturday tariffs
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Image: Cornwall Live

Sunday tariffs
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Image: Cornwall Live

The minimum cost for a taxi for one person in the daytime Monday to Saturday varies from £2.80 in Penwith - in West Cornwall - to £3.50 in Restormel - which covers St Austell and Newquay and areas in between the two towns.

But a five-mile daytime fare Monday to Saturday for one passenger varies from a low of £12.80 in Caradon - covering South East Cornwall - and North Cornwall to a high of £17.25 in Kerrier - which covers Helston, Camborne and Redruth.

However, the charges are difficult to compare as each area has different times for its various tariffs.

For example, in Kerrier the daytime tariffs operate from 7am to midnight, whereas in Caradon and North Cornwall they run from 7am to 7pm.

There are similar differences for Sunday fares - during daytime on Sunday Restormel is the most expensive area with the minimum fare for one passenger being £5 and a five-mile journey £18.50. In comparison the cheapest Sunday daytime fare for one passenger is in Kerrier at £2.90 and the cheapest five-mile fare is £15.30 in Penwith.

And for Sunday nighttime in Kerrier - from midnight to 7am - the minimum is £5.56 and a five-mile fare is £30.98. But the cheapest nighttime fare is in Penwith - from 11pm to 6am - at £3.50 for the minimum journey and £15.30 for a five-mile journey.

Cornwall Council's miscellaneous licensing committee will meet on Friday April 12 when they will decide whether officers should create a single table of fares for taxis for consultation.


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why do they keep saying 1 passenger ? the fare is for the vehicle irrespective of whether it is 1 ,2 3 or 4 passengers

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:15 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
why do they keep saying 1 passenger ? the fare is for the vehicle irrespective of whether it is 1 ,2 3 or 4 passengers


Eh?

Common for extras to be charged for additional passengers and/or larger vehicles. So the tables just show the fare for one passenger to prevent information overload - if you were to have the above tables showing fare comparisons for each number of passengers then you'd need EIGHT tables for Monday to Friday, and another EIGHT tables for Sunday.

Which again underlines the limitations of the PHTM tables, which are (presumably) based on one passenger.

In Fife our tariff applies irrespective of the number of passengers or size of the vehicle.

But in Caradon there's 20p for each passenger in addition to the first. And also a 50% premium for cabs seating five or more passengers.

In Penwith there doesn't seem to be a charge for bigger vehicles, but the charge per extra passenger is a hefty 40p.

So in Fife the PHTM figure applies irrespective of passenger numbers. But in the Cornwall zones above extra passengers attract extra charges. So even just using the PHTM tables to compare Fife and Caradon isn't realistic - the average Caradon trip will be a bit higher than that shown in the PHTM figures compared to Fife (unless Caradon cabs only ever carry one passenger, which is obviously unrealistic).


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:31 pm 
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The Carrick and Restormel forum did not support a single countywide tariff, with one of the concerns being that taxi drivers would be able to operate across the whole of Cornwall.

Heaven forbid.

The nerve of taxi drivers actually wanting to work throughout the licensing area.

What ever next?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:38 pm 
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This issue is so typical of a council that finds it easier to do f*** all than to actually deal with a matter.

If they had done this 10 years ago when the councils all merged it would have been done dusted and forgotten about. But 10 years done the line they are at square one.

The answer is to gradually increase the lower ones until they catch up with the higher one. Maybe inflation for the higher ones and double inflation for the lower ones.

Not exactly rocket science.

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