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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:57 am 
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heathcote wrote:
http://www.trafficsignsandmeanings.co.uk/explain-red-route.html

This informs you that a licensed TAXI is allowed to stop to pick up or set down a passenger.


That certainly suggests that the taxi exemption isn't just applicable to London, but that's not an official site.

But if it is correct then it suggests that the Highway Code is misleading, and that the councillor's statement in the article is misleading. Of course, misleading information from officialdom would hardly be anything new :-s

But if you're correct then that's another bus lane-style discrimination against PHVs that Sussex can get his teeth into :badgrin:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:08 am 
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By the way, looks like London PHVs now have equal status with HCs as regards picking up and dropping off, but don't know when this came into effect:

TfL, red route exemptions, wrote:
Taxi and Private Hire

Always display your licence and exemption sticker. Private hire vehicle owners will now be offered red route exemption stickers at the point of inspection. We will not, under any circumstances, issue a red route sign to an individual whose vehicle is not on site for a licensing inspection.

You can pick up and drop off passengers on most red routes as long as you display your private hire vehicle (PHV) license. It will tell police, CCTV operators and other road users that you're allowed to do this. It also means that you'll avoid receiving a penalty charge.


https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/exemptions


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:31 am 
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Four bays on Station Street is not enough, if his passenger had opened the door then fair do's, I reckon he was dropping off. Appeal it if that fails pay it, if you don't want to pay it be a rebel and let them chase you for nothing, no offence was committed, no undue stress or harm was caused, he wasn't causing an obstruction he wasn't effecting the flow of commerce.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:09 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
heathcote wrote:
http://www.trafficsignsandmeanings.co.uk/explain-red-route.html

This informs you that a licensed TAXI is allowed to stop to pick up or set down a passenger.


That certainly suggests that the taxi exemption isn't just applicable to London, but that's not an official site.

But if it is correct then it suggests that the Highway Code is misleading, and that the councillor's statement in the article is misleading. Of course, misleading information from officialdom would hardly be anything new :-s

But if you're correct then that's another bus lane-style discrimination against PHVs that Sussex can get his teeth into :badgrin:


Traffic signs manual Chapter 3 Regulatory signs (2008) informs you that a licensed TAXI can stop.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:41 pm 
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n the UK, red routes are major roads in urban areas, stopping, loading or unloading a vehicle is not allowed by law or only when the adjacent signs state that vehicles can park - the days and times will usually be stated on the sign.

Red routes warn motorist’s that you cannot stop to park, load, unload or board and alight from a vehicle (except for a licensed taxi or if you hold a blue badge).

Normally an upright sign will be in the vicinity of the red route lines and the times that you are prohibited from being in a red route will be stated on a text plate, however if the red route has a double red line then it is against the law to stop at this point at any time.

There are occasional times when motorists are permitted to park on a red route, load/unload. You can do so in specially marked boxes, these bays will have adjacent signs, which specify the times, purposes and duration allowed.

I think Stuart is right the paragraph in red seems to contradict the rest and this is an article NOT the actual traffic orders

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:36 pm 
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But if you're correct then that's another bus lane-style discrimination against PHVs that Sussex can get his teeth into :badgrin:

Not in the slightest bit worried.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-p ... nformation

https://www.newcastle.gov.uk/sites/defa ... o_know.pdf

I would be very surprised if hackneys were exempt and PH not. I suspect those links with comments saying taxis are exempt are a general hackney/PH comment.

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