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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:24 pm 
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Written statement to Parliament

Government response and consultation on taxi and private hire vehicle licensing

Consultation on draft statutory guidance on measures to protect taxi and PHV passengers.

Published 12 February 2019

From: Department for Transport and Nusrat Ghani MP

I am today announcing to the House the launching of a consultation on statutory guidance to be issued to taxi and private hire vehicle (PHV) licensing authorities and that the government has issued its response to the report of the Task and Finish Group on taxi and private hire vehicle licensing.

The draft statutory guidance proposes a range of robust measures to protect taxi and PHV passengers, particularly those most vulnerable. Government and licensing authorities must work together to ensure that, above all else, the taxi and PHV services the public use are safe. The consultation on this guidance will run until 22 April 2019.

The taxi and PHV trade has experienced significant and rapid changes in recent years which have brought with them benefits but have exacerbated concerns over the existing structure of the industry and the environment in which it operates. In particular, many of these changes have highlighted inconsistencies in the licencing standards, and in the rigour with which these standards are applied by some licencing authorities.

The recommendations proposed in the draft statutory guidance are a result of extensive consultation, and in particular learning from the best practice of exemplary licensing authorities.

Consulting on statutory guidance is an important first step to reforming the way the taxi and PHV sector is regulated.

In addition to the statutory guidance consultation, the government is today publishing its response to the report of the Chair of the Task and Finish Group. The government has set out its plans to introduce legislation and bring forward the urgent reforms necessary. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Chair, Professor Mohammed Abdel-Haq, for his report, and the members of the group for their dedication in considering the issues facing the trade and their potential remedies.

Government will when time allows bring forward legislation to introduce national minimum standards for taxi and PHV licensing, reinforcing the consistently high standards that the statutory guidance will bring to the sector. To ensure that drivers are under the same level of scrutiny when operating away from their licensing area we will legislate to enable enforcement and compliance checks to be conducted by any licensing officer against any vehicle regardless of where they have been licensed. Where drivers or vehicles fail to meet the national minimum standards, they will be able to take appropriate action to protect the public. Underpinning these measures will be the introduction of a national licensing database to assist the sharing of relevant information between licensing authorities and other bodies necessary to ensure that all those in the trade are ‘fit and proper’ and warrant the trust that is placed in them by the public. This database will build on the work of the Local Government Association and the National Anti-Fraud Network in establishing the National Register of Revocation and Refusals.

Taxis and PHVs provide a vital community service which is used by many people; helping them get to the shops, see their friends, or go to work or school. We will work with the trade, drivers and regulators as well as passenger groups to meet the challenges the sector is expected to face in the future and ensure that change is not at the expense of a safe and well-functioning market.

This work is already underway thorough the Future of Mobility Grand Challenge and the Law Commission’s consideration on enabling autonomous vehicles. I would encourage all to engage on these issues and help shape a successful sector that all can be proud of.


Taxi and private hire vehicle licensing: government response to independent report

Government response to report on a safer system of taxi and private hire vehicle licensing.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ent-report


Open consultation

Taxi and private hire vehicle licensing: protecting users

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... ting-users


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Overseas convictions 2.47 The DBS cannot access criminal records held overseas. Therefore, a DBS check may not provide a complete picture of an individual’s criminal record where there have been periods living or working overseas. A licensing authority should ensure they have access to all the information available to them when making a decision whether to grant a licence, particularly when an applicant has previously lived outside the UK. It should be noted that it is the character of the applicant as an adult that is of interest, therefore a period outside the UK before

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While there is a widespread consensus amongst stakeholders that common core
standards are required to regulate better the taxi and PHV sector, government does not currently have the legislative power to introduce national standards.


well whose fault is that then :roll:

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Although it remains the case that licensing authorities must reach their own
decisions, both on overall policies and on individual licensing matters in light
of the relevant law, it may be that this guidance might be drawn upon in any
legal challenge to an authority’s practice; any failure to adhere to the guidance
without sufficient justification could be detrimental to the authority’s defence.


:-k

It is interesting that whilst they are proposing ENHANCED DBS for drivers they are proposing BASIC DBS for holders of Operator licenses

personally i think it should be the same for both

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:30 pm 
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you can do the response questionnaire in about half an hour thanks Trevor for posting that link up I hope quite a few on here respond and lets get some genuine members of the trade involved in the consultation =D>

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edders23 wrote:
you can do the response questionnaire in about half an hour thanks Trevor for posting that link up I hope quite a few on here respond and lets get some genuine members of the trade involved in the consultation =D>


Don't mention it, you're very welcome, and it's a sheer pleasure putting the effort in with all the appreciation, and makes it all seem so worthwhile Trevor, er, Edders, or whoever :badgrin:


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you can do the response questionnaire in about half an hour thanks Trevor for posting that link up I hope quite a few on here respond and lets get some genuine members of the trade involved in the consultation =D>


Don't mention it, you're very welcome, and it's a sheer pleasure putting the effort in with all the appreciation, and makes it all seem so worthwhile Trevor, er, Edders, or whoever :badgrin:



it's a thankless job stuart :lol:

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so talked to one or two of the independent drivers and the boss of gangsta cabs on the rank and the response was underwhelming to say the least they are far more bothered by this making tax digital business than these fairly major changes to taxi law so based on that very limited poll I think the government will be lucky to get 100 responses from members of the trade

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edders23 wrote:
so talked to one or two of the independent drivers and the boss of gangsta cabs on the rank and the response was underwhelming to say the least they are far more bothered by this making tax digital business than these fairly major changes to taxi law so based on that very limited poll I think the government will be lucky to get 100 responses from members of the trade

How many of them have the required turnover to be caught in the make tax digital regime?

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grandad wrote:
edders23 wrote:
so talked to one or two of the independent drivers and the boss of gangsta cabs on the rank and the response was underwhelming to say the least they are far more bothered by this making tax digital business than these fairly major changes to taxi law so based on that very limited poll I think the government will be lucky to get 100 responses from members of the trade

How many of them have the required turnover to be caught in the make tax digital regime?



none but eventually the level will come down and we all will they are starting with bigger fish and moving down

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Had an email from PHTM about this

We stress that the Government's response to the TFG report is a "DONE DEAL; it is not out to consultation.

It is only the draft Statutory Guidance document which was published at the same time that requires your response.

We hope that this review will go some way towards clarifying the confusion that exists amongst many in the industry at present.

(toots having a blond moment again)

https://www.phtm.co.uk/the-task-and-finish-report?mc_cid=5d3b8a42c7&mc_eid=1b694ac41b

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edders23 wrote:
so talked to one or two of the independent drivers and the boss of gangsta cabs on the rank and the response was underwhelming to say the least they are far more bothered by this making tax digital business than these fairly major changes to taxi law so based on that very limited poll I think the government will be lucky to get 100 responses from members of the trade


THAT many really :badgrin: :badgrin: a pillocks industry populated by pillocks

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edders23 wrote:
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While there is a widespread consensus amongst stakeholders that common core
standards are required to regulate better the taxi and PHV sector, government does not currently have the legislative power to introduce national standards.


well whose fault is that then :roll:

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Although it remains the case that licensing authorities must reach their own
decisions, both on overall policies and on individual licensing matters in light
of the relevant law, it may be that this guidance might be drawn upon in any
legal challenge to an authority’s practice; any failure to adhere to the guidance
without sufficient justification could be detrimental to the authority’s defence.


:-k

It is interesting that whilst they are proposing ENHANCED DBS for drivers they are proposing BASIC DBS for holders of Operator licenses

personally i think it should be the same for both


Enhanced for both of course that could be amended in Parliament no doubt IF you had reps there :badgrin: :badgrin:

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