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Barrhead woman says guide dog refusals 'increasingly common'
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Author:  StuartW [ Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Barrhead woman says guide dog refusals 'increasingly common'

Nothing particularly new here, but wonder why refusals apparently becoming 'increasingly common'? :shock: 8-[

And loved the comment from the cab firm near the end :badgrin:


Cabbies told to end ‘discrimination’ against customers with guide dogs in East Renfrewshire

https://www.barrheadnews.com/news/17513 ... frewshire/

CAMPAIGNERS are calling for tough action against “selfish” cabbies in East Renfrewshire who are refusing to collect blind passengers.

A number of visually-impaired people have complained about being turned away by private hire drivers because they had a guide dog with them.

One woman who relies on an assistance dog to get out and about told the Barrhead News that discrimination is becoming increasingly common.

“In the five years I’ve had my guide dog, I’ve found I’m being refused by taxis more and more often,” said the woman, who is from Neilston but asked not to be named.

“It makes you feel really vulnerable, especially if it is late at night or you are on your own.

“Being refused access to a taxi does make me feel like a second-class citizen. Why shouldn’t I have the same rights to a taxi as everyone else?”

Emma Brown, communications officer for Guide Dogs Scotland, has urged East Renfrewshire Council to clamp down on any cabbie who is guilty of discrimination against visually-impaired passengers.

She said: “Guide dogs are working animals, not pets, and their owners rely on them for both independence and mobility.

“We ask licensing authorities to have a zero-tolerance policy to access refusals.”

Michael McEwan, chair of East Renfrewshire Disability Action, believes more must be done to raise awareness of such issues.

He said: “I think it is terrible that anyone would be refused access to a taxi simply because they rely on a guide dog.”

The Equality Act 2010 states that cabbies must carry assistance dogs unless they have genuine health reasons not to do so, such as an allergy.

Even then, drivers must have an official exemption certificate to prove this.

East Renfrewshire MP Paul Masterton has received several complaints from visually-impaired residents who have been refused access to a cab.

That has prompted him to write to Scotland’s Transport Minister, Michael Matheson, to call for action.

Mr Masterton said: “Private hire companies must not be allowed to discriminate. I want this matter to be looked at urgently, to ensure visually-impaired individuals are treated with dignity and respect by private hire companies and cannot be refused a lift simply because they have a guide dog.”

One Barrhead cab firm, Arthurlie Taxis, confirmed its drivers are told that, unless they have a medical certificate, they have to take guide dogs.

A spokeswoman added: “We did have a note on our wall to let the drivers know they can refuse an ordinary dog but cannot refuse a guide dog.”

East Renfrewshire Council said it is “not aware” of any instances taking place in the area.

However, a spokesperson added that “appropriate action” would be taken should the council receive evidence of any such refusals.

Author:  StuartW [ Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrhead woman says guide dog refusals 'increasingly com

Quote:
One Barrhead cab firm, Arthurlie Taxis, confirmed its drivers are told that, unless they have a medical certificate, they have to take guide dogs.

A spokeswoman added: “We did have a note on our wall to let the drivers know they can refuse an ordinary dog but cannot refuse a guide dog.”


Well that's that sorted then =D> :-s

But I wonder what happened to the note on the wall :roll: :-$

Author:  Nidge2 [ Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:51 pm ]
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StuartW wrote:
Quote:
One Barrhead cab firm, Arthurlie Taxis, confirmed its drivers are told that, unless they have a medical certificate, they have to take guide dogs.

A spokeswoman added: “We did have a note on our wall to let the drivers know they can refuse an ordinary dog but cannot refuse a guide dog.”


Well that's that sorted then =D> :-s

But I wonder what happened to the note on the wall :roll: :-$


Any driver who refuses a guide dog needs getting rid of.

Author:  x-ray [ Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:18 pm ]
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Can’t stand lazy journalism. One minute it’s a taxi, then it’s a private hire, then it’s a cab.
But as you say, which ever one it is they need sorting out.

Author:  Sussex [ Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:03 pm ]
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Surely a private hire refusal of a guide dog job has got to be the easiest thing to investigate.

You got the job, you went to the address, you didn't pick up. Why?

Author:  edders23 [ Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:44 am ]
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Nidge2 wrote:
StuartW wrote:
Quote:
One Barrhead cab firm, Arthurlie Taxis, confirmed its drivers are told that, unless they have a medical certificate, they have to take guide dogs.

A spokeswoman added: “We did have a note on our wall to let the drivers know they can refuse an ordinary dog but cannot refuse a guide dog.”


Well that's that sorted then =D> :-s

But I wonder what happened to the note on the wall :roll: :-$


Any driver who refuses a guide dog needs getting rid of.



No just re-educating

Author:  Chris the Fish [ Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrhead woman says guide dog refusals 'increasingly com

I am Hackney, this is enforceable on Ranks.

Bit different for PH or even a Taxi taking an advanced booking, soon as a person is known to have a Guide Dog, if Drivers don't want to do it, they just won't take the booking.

Not saying it's right, but that is what will happen.

Author:  StuartW [ Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrhead woman says guide dog refusals 'increasingly com

x-ray wrote:
Can’t stand lazy journalism. One minute it’s a taxi, then it’s a private hire, then it’s a cab.
But as you say, which ever one it is they need sorting out.


To be fair, think journos just use the words in their everyday meaning, so to the average reader the words 'taxi' and 'cabbie' mean either HC or PH, and this just helps get the message across.

I mean, 'private hire' won't necessarily mean anything to the average member of the public, and would just confuse the issue if that's the only term used.

And even where some people have a vague idea of what private hire means, they often don't know the precise meaning. For example, I think some people from the big cities in particular (ie those with black cabs) tend to think our saloon HCs are private hire.

I recall a couple of years ago on the main Wikipedia 'taxi' page there was a photo of a rank with saloon HCs and the caption said something about private hire, although I think it's gone now.

It doesn't really bother me much these days unless the precise distinction is relevant, and if it's a story about a driver being battered for not turning up the music (say) then the distinction is irrelevant.

And because the term 'taxi' is a bit vague (with many councils using it to refer to both HC and PH) then I tend to avoid its use where it matters, and stick to HC and PH, where there's less room for confusion.

I also tend to use 'cab' and 'cabbie' to refer to both sides rather than 'taxi' (thinking minicab here), although obviously many would quibble with that too.

But even when people try to get a bit technical (as per the Wikipedia thing above) they're often all at sea. Saw this on Wikipedia about Cardiff the other night:

Some city centre taxis can be hailed. They are usually, but not always, black with a white bonnet or hackney carriages.


Where to start with that :shock:

Assume 'taxi' here is referring to HCs and PHVs.

Of course, the 'black vehicles with a white bonnet' are I assume the saloon HCs.

And the author presumably means black cab/purpose built when referring to hackney carriages.

Not sure either what the relevance of 'usually, not always' is. Does it mean there are HCs in Cardiff that aren't saloons with the white bonnets or purpose built, or wot? #-o

Author:  edders23 [ Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:20 pm ]
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Quote:
To be fair, think journos just use the words in their everyday meaning, so to the average reader the words 'taxi' and 'cabbie' mean either HC or PH, and this just helps get the message across.


no they don't they use them indiscriminately to increase the level of sensationalism and their editors don't pull them up on it

Author:  StuartW [ Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:16 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
Quote:
To be fair, think journos just use the words in their everyday meaning, so to the average reader the words 'taxi' and 'cabbie' mean either HC or PH, and this just helps get the message across.


no they don't they use them indiscriminately to increase the level of sensationalism and their editors don't pull them up on it


There's certainly an element of sensationalism, exaggeration and selectivity etc, but not so sure I see that with regard to the use of the HC/PH terminology.

Think readers just interested in the fact that a driver of a [whatever] has done [whatever], and the fine details don't really bother them. So the easiest way for journalists to convey it all to the great unwashed is by using the word 'taxi'.

Often fair to say (at least from perspective of someone within the trade) that such stuff unfairly tars one side, but don't think the right word here is 'sensationalism' [-(

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