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| Author: | edwardraymondevans [ Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | plates dropping in liverpool |
Hi, just did a search on google cab and plate liverpool. https://www.gumtree.com/all/merseyside/taxi+plates The plates for taxis in liverpool have dropped from £28, 000 to £22, 000. Talking to a friend over the weekend. It seems some multiple owners may be trying to sell of some of theirs. Cannot get drivers and long collars are now £250. Also the liverpool city council have given all TX2 conversions with nissans engines five year to replace their engines. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Quote: Cannot get drivers and long collars are now £250. I'm guessing long collar is basically full time. If you drive full time you have got to be looking at £150-200 a week in fuel in a TX, so really it's not surprising that drivers aren't working all hours to see the first £400 of their takings going elsewhere. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Plates should be zero !!!! i always think it is wrong that a driver or owner has to pay a premium to get into the trade |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
edders23 wrote: Plates should be zero !!!! i always think it is wrong that a driver or owner has to pay a premium to get into the trade Until the Council attach conditions to them where they "must be handed back into the Council and cannot be transferred" the illegal trade will continue to flourish. |
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| Author: | MR T [ Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Nidge2 wrote: edders23 wrote: Plates should be zero !!!! i always think it is wrong that a driver or owner has to pay a premium to get into the trade Until the Council attach conditions to them where they "must be handed back into the Council and cannot be transferred" the illegal trade will continue to flourish. It's not illegal |
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| Author: | heathcote [ Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Nidge2 wrote: edders23 wrote: Plates should be zero !!!! i always think it is wrong that a driver or owner has to pay a premium to get into the trade Until the Council attach conditions to them where they "must be handed back into the Council and cannot be transferred" the illegal trade will continue to flourish. The LAW is explicit in what a Council has to do on the transferring of a plate proprietor ie. cannot refuse to to the transfer. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Quote: cannot refuse to to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL3Wwo6RGyw
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| Author: | edwardraymondevans [ Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
There should be no values to the plates. In Liverpool there are 1,400 black taxis. The council undertake a survey every three years to determine if there is an unmet demand. If there is a demand, they will issue plates. In Liverpool, there were too many people buying taxis and plates and renting out the taxis. These people were none taxi drivers, investor.s : It has now changing, more taxi drivers owning and buying thier own cab and plate.  Problem with liverpool, like other areas, out of area drivers working the city, UBER, too many people driving taxis but the same amount of passengers. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Quote: too many people driving taxis but the same amount of passengers. yup in nearly every district in the uk Our council's policy is to license enough taxis that even on the busiest day or night there are always cars sitting on the rank  Their workers get national living wage we struggle to manage half that
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| Author: | grandad [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
edders23 wrote: Quote: too many people driving taxis but the same amount of passengers. yup in nearly every district in the uk Our council's policy is to license enough taxis that even on the busiest day or night there are always cars sitting on the rank Their workers get national living wage we struggle to manage half that |
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| Author: | x-ray [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
edwardraymondevans wrote: There should be no values to the plates. In Liverpool there are 1,400 black taxis. The council undertake a survey every three years to determine if there is an unmet demand. If there is a demand, they will issue plates. In Liverpool, there were too many people buying taxis and plates and renting out the taxis. These people were none taxi drivers, investor.s : It has now changing, more taxi drivers owning and buying thier own cab and plate. Problem with liverpool, like other areas, out of area drivers working the city, UBER, too many people driving taxis but the same amount of passengers. It’s also one if the easiest ways to launder money. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
grandad wrote: edders23 wrote: Quote: too many people driving taxis but the same amount of passengers. yup in nearly every district in the uk Our council's policy is to license enough taxis that even on the busiest day or night there are always cars sitting on the rank Their workers get national living wage we struggle to manage half thatNor can we but what there is available i wouldn't touch with a barge pole reputation is important 
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Punter from Edinburgh earlier on, said he'd bought three HC plates in Edinburgh @ £40k each, claimed they're 'worth nothing' now. I said couldn't believe they were worth nothing, and asked him how much they were actually going for. He said £10k. Still don't believe they're worth as little as that to be honest, but obviously dropped a good bit in value. Sure I heard they peaked at £50k maybe 15 years ago? Suspect he bought the plates as some kind of investment - wouldn't be surprised if he didn't drive at all. Was up with some pals for a golf weekend, and wouldn't be surprised if he was just in his 30s, but certainly not what you'd call old. He blamed it all on Uber. Suspect that's only part of the answer though - probably a longer-term thing due to growth of and fare competition from PH generally, and I think plates in general fell catastrophically during the big financial crash (whenever that was), and never really recovered fully again. Certainly no Uber or PH threat here in East Fife, but work has gradually declined over the years. Plates have never been worth more than a couple of grand, but someone said recently they'd been increasing in value a bit to maybe £4/5k, so it's a bit of a mystery why that might be. But there's very few change hands, and it's not as if they're advertised in the local press or on eBay, so who knows precisely what they're worth. But at least I know that even if Uber do arrive here, the plate doesn't have a huge amount to fall And at least I didn't pay for it
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
Clearly Uber has had an effect on the radio firms where Uber operate, but I also think they have had an equally, if not greater, effect on non radio hackney rank and path work. My view is the Uber app, and similar apps, are akin to plying online. Even if the Chief Magistrate took the other view. However her view matters and mine is just hopeful thinking. The other reason why the likes of Uber have effected plate prices is the fact that Uber swallows up the large number of drivers that would otherwise have journeyed hackneys. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: plates dropping in liverpool |
edwardraymondevans wrote: Also the liverpool city council have given all TX2 conversions with nissans engines five year to replace their engines. That was another thing that the lad from Edinburgh mentioned the other night affecting plate values (and that I'd forgotten about) - the new eco-HCs regime. Can't remember precisely what Edinburgh is planning (and think it's still up in the air to an extent), but think it's a bit more stringent than Liverpool's. But if an HC licence requires a £60k leccy vehicle within a couple of years then wouldn't be surprised if that knocked at least £10k off the value of a plate. So maybe the chap's claim of a drop from £40k to £10k isn't so far-fetched after all 
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