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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 am 
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Marketing gimmick like the pedicabs in Dundee the other week, but at least this one is more obviously a temporary PR stunt.

Obviously trying to schmooze the black cabs in Liverpool too, but can't see them being too impressed somehow :x

Can't see Sussex being too impressed either :badgrin:

Green tuk-tuks hit Liverpool streets as the 'new Uber' launches in region

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... l-16015300

Ride-hailing giant hits the streets with big ambitions

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Ola, one of the world's largest ride-hailing companies has launched in Merseyside - and is aiming to surpass Uber as the region's top taxi-app firm.

People around the region may have noticed people in luminous green jackets driving tuk-tuk vehicles on the roads - this is all part of Ola's launch in Merseyside .

In celebration of landing in the region, the company has been offering free rides in the tuk-tuk vehicles around Liverpool City Centre as it looks to spread the word about the Indian company that is looking to challenge Uber on a global scale .

One of the key differences between Ola and Uber is that the former works with private hire drivers and hackney carriage drivers.

Ola means business - it has been granted licenses in each of the Merseyside boroughs and there are already around 500 drivers working around the city.

The company says it will provide more choice for customers - and will pay drivers a greater share of fares than its biggest rival Uber.

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Ben Legg, Managing Director of Ola UK, said: “I have been driving passengers around the city today and have really enjoyed the chance to discuss the challenges that the community faces and how we can help with our new technology.

“We are celebrating bringing more travel and employment choices to Liverpudlians with our ride-hailing app with the help of the community choir.”

First time riders can receive 50% their first journey when they download the app before the end of April.

As part of its pledge to empower drivers, Ola says it offers the highest driver rates, charging 10% commission to black cabs, compared with 25% charged by competitors.

The company claims to have also committed to make black cab and PHV ride options equally as attractive to app users by ensuring that they are competitively priced.

Black cabs do not ‘peak’ meaning that they can be cheaper when PHVs are in high demand.

Following the UK launch of Ola in Cardiff in August 2018, the company has since launched in Bristol in October, followed by Bath and Exeter in November.

Liverpool is the fifth UK launch and the first of many in the North of England this year.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:32 pm 
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Going off the photographs these so called vehicles cannot meet the vehicle specifications for a PHV,no hard roof,cannot see any seat belts,no doors or windows,in the event of a crash there is no visible protection for the passengers,not bothered about the driver.

If Councillors have been daft enough to grant licenses they should be fit with a pair of concrete wellies and thrown off the Mersey ferry mid stream.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:47 pm 
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Judging by the size of the "drivers" there will be one or two overturning :lol:

Shame brighton aren't away to either liverpool club Sussex could have had a free ride in his favourite form of transport :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:05 pm 
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Can't see Sussex being too impressed either :badgrin:

I can't imagine Ola doing anything worse to pi** off the local cab and PH trade than offering free rides on Tuk Tuks.

Defo will bite them in the ar**.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:37 pm 
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Going off the photographs these so called vehicles cannot meet the vehicle specifications for a PHV,no hard roof,cannot see any seat belts,no doors or windows,in the event of a crash there is no visible protection for the passengers,not bothered about the driver.

If Councillors have been daft enough to grant licenses they should be fit with a pair of concrete wellies and thrown off the Mersey ferry mid stream.


Would imagine the assumption is that because they're freebies then they don't have to be licenced. Of course, as we know that's not the case if freebies are offered with a view to profit, or whatever, so don't know what's going on here.

Somehow doubt if Liverpool City Council has plated them as PHVs though.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:26 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
heathcote wrote:
Going off the photographs these so called vehicles cannot meet the vehicle specifications for a PHV,no hard roof,cannot see any seat belts,no doors or windows,in the event of a crash there is no visible protection for the passengers,not bothered about the driver.

If Councillors have been daft enough to grant licenses they should be fit with a pair of concrete wellies and thrown off the Mersey ferry mid stream.


Would imagine the assumption is that because they're freebies then they don't have to be licenced. Of course, as we know that's not the case if freebies are offered with a view to profit, or whatever, so don't know what's going on here.

Somehow doubt if Liverpool City Council has plated them as PHVs though.



The article claims they have been licensed in 5 boroughs.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:38 pm 
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The article claims they have been licensed in 5 boroughs.


Was assuming that meant licensed with regard to Ola's Uber-style app-based despatch operation.

So doubt if Ola actually has/owns any licensed vehicles at all, never mind the tuk-tuks.

And whether or not Ola even owns the tuk-tuks, doubt if they're a core part of their long-term business plan.

As I said, more probably short-term PR stunt.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:56 pm 
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Meet the ex-soldier taking on Uber taxis in Merseyside with Ola

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/bu ... r-16049958

Indian giant Ola has launched its private hire app in Liverpool

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He's a former soldier who's had top jobs at Coca Cola and Google - now Ben Legg is taking on Uber and moving into the Liverpool taxi and private hire market.

Mr Legg leads Indian ride-hailing app firm Ola, which this month (March) launched in Liverpool with a promotional push including a fleet of people in luminous green jackets driving tuk tuks.

Ola already has hundreds of drivers in the city region and licences across its boroughs.

Unlike Uber it works with private hire and hackney carriage drivers.

Liverpool is the fifth British city where Ola has launched its operations .

Mr Legg, Ola's UK managing director who visited Liverpool this month to launch the business, said: "Why Liverpool? Basically because we want to get bigger.

"We want to enter into the North of England and Liverpool looked like a great place to start. Secondly, we want to get bigger and bigger with our cities, so after Bristol we thought Liverpool would be an awesome next step.

"Also the council seem very innovative and enthusiastic about innovation in the space.

"Some councils can be a bit more slow, bureaucratic, and Liverpool I thought was both fast and professional."

Ola differentiates itself from Uber by making its app available to private hire vehicles and black cabs.

The rivalry between private hire and black cab drivers can be intense and the arrival of Uber stirred things up further.

But the upbeat Mr Legg is confident Ola can work alongside other drivers.

He said: "It's working really well for us. for customers like it because they get a choice or private hire or taxis. And different rides have different benefits."

Rival Uber has faced battles over licenses in the UK. Transport to London once refused to review its licence, while locally there were furious rows over drivers licenced in other areas picking up passengers in Liverpool.

Mr Legg didn't discuss Uber directly. But when he discussed his Silicon Valley experience, he said Ola was a "sleeves rolled-up" company that believed in working with local people and regulators.

He said: "For example unlike some other players, we only launch in particular where we have a licence, where we're met the local council, probably met the local police, we have an office, we have people on the ground, and we meet drivers as part of the onboarding process.

"It's a very human process, which is a little expensive but it's getting things set up right from the beginning. And it's kind of working.

"So we've been picking up licences that maybe other big app operators haven't picked up just by turning up, being polite."

Mr Legg himself has had to get his sleeves rolled up.

He said: "I've taken exams on taxi law in portakabins in South Gloucestershire, so I have a very glamorous life. You get grilled by ex-policemen working in licensing offices.

"It's what it takes to earn the trust of local communities so that's what we're doing."

Mr Legg wasn't from a military family but knew he wanted to join the Army from the age of three.

He said: "As a teenager I was good at maths and physics and stuff so people were saying 'what about banking or insurance or accountancy? And compared to the Army they sounded boring."

He went on to do officer training at Sandhurst and wound up in the Royal Engineers "building things and blowing things up".

That included building bomb-proof structures in Northern Ireland and working with a multinational force in Bosnia to help relieve the siege of Sarajevo.

Running a private hire app may seem rather different, but Mr Legg agrees that the project planning skills he learned in the Army have stayed with him.

He said: "The Army is a work hard play hard place. There's a lot of project management, especially within the Royal Engineers, because everything you build is a project, everything you blow up too.

"Obviously you put a lot of effort and training into teamwork and leadership and communication and other things.

"The other thing I like is that when you've been in the Army, nothing in business is particularly scary. It helps give you a sense of perspective on stuff, and not get too stressed."

After the military he worked for Coca Cola in Greece, Poland and India.

He then moved to Google, where he ended up as chief operating office for Europe. He worked with a team leading Google "from a scrappy start-up to a professionally-run business".

He said: " Ola is in some ways is a multi billion-dollar start-up.

"Right now I'm focused on making the UK a model for other international markets for Ola. And obviously with each city we want to do things a bit better, run the launch a bit better, run the operations a bit better, work out city management a bit better etc."


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:00 pm 
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"Also the council seem very innovative and enthusiastic about innovation in the space.

"Some councils can be a bit more slow, bureaucratic, and Liverpool I thought was both fast and professional."


Didn't Liverpool take an absolute age to grant Uber a licence? Dragging their feet for years, as I recall it...

But this is typical PR schmooze - make officials and councillors sound competent and important, and that's one way to get what you want [-(

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Ola differentiates itself from Uber by making its app available to private hire vehicles and black cabs.

The rivalry between private hire and black cab drivers can be intense and the arrival of Uber stirred things up further.

But the upbeat Mr Legg is confident Ola can work alongside other drivers.

He said: "It's working really well for us. for customers like it because they get a choice or private hire or taxis. And different rides have different benefits."


More PR schmoozing, and wishful thinking with regard to HC and PH working together in one big happy family. But sounds good in the Echo =D>

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He said: "For example unlike some other players, we only launch in particular where we have a licence, where we're met the local council, probably met the local police, we have an office, we have people on the ground, and we meet drivers as part of the onboarding process.

"It's a very human process, which is a little expensive but it's getting things set up right from the beginning. And it's kind of working.

"So we've been picking up licences that maybe other big app operators haven't picked up just by turning up, being polite."


PR-speak for "we've learned from Uber's mistakes" :badgrin:


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Unlike Uber it works with private hire and hackney carriage drivers.

If I have to say this one more time I shall scream.

Uber have hackneys working on their app. I see them every f***ing day. :sad:

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Unlike Uber it works with private hire and hackney carriage drivers.

If I have to say this one more time I shall scream.

Uber have hackneys working on their app. I see them every f***ing day. :sad:


What he possibly means is that Ola works with HCDs working primarily in the area they're licensed in, rather than HCDs working out of area and doing pre-booked work only, thus effectively PHVs. But that's a bit of a mouthful for a bit of free advertising in the Echo.

Or maybe he views saloon HCs as different from purpose-built HCs/black cabs, or whatever. Again this might fit more with the public perception rather than the legal technicalities.

Or maybe Mr Ola thinks saloon HCs are actually more like PHVs, and hasn't maybe fully grasped the difference yet. Again, this may reflect the public perception.

Or maybe he's simply unaware that Uber uses HCs in some (one?) areas. Again, a misconception that's widespread, even among those in the trade, and those who should know, such as licensing councillors and officials :-$


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Unlike Uber it works with private hire and hackney carriage drivers.

If I have to say this one more time I shall scream.

Uber have hackneys working on their app. I see them every f***ing day. :sad:


Brighton Licensed ? :-"

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Brighton Licensed ? :-"

No, but I suspect if B&H hackneys could get away with surge pricing then many would sign up.

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