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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:45 pm 
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Other local councils such as Lancaster add a £4 booking fee for Hackney Carriage drivers.


Unsurprisingly, this is a *maximum* booking fee, and the charging of the fee is quite strictly controlled, on paper at least.

In particular, the HC must be hiked at least a mile before any booking fee can be charged:

Lancaster HC tariff card wrote:
A booking fee up to a maximum of £4.00 maybe charged where:

a) The Hackney carriage is booked in advance; and

b) (i) The Customer shall be told the cost of the booking fee at the time that the booking is taken and the amount recorded in the booking log; and

(ii) The customer shall be told that the booking fee is in addition to the fare for the journey; and

c) The hiring involves a separate journey of at least one mile, starting from the taxi rank or the operator’s premises, to the pick up point.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:40 am 
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I've always thought that the best solution to this (given our 2 tier HC/PH system) is just to allow HCs to operate as PH vehicles when booked in advance, so you can agree a rate with the customer in advance.

When one of the PH lot get a booking from one local village to another local village they tell the punter that the job will clock from Chester because the driver has to drive out of town to get to them and then back again at the other end. They only apply this to jobs that don't either start or end in the local area.

It would be fairly easy for the council to implement too. You just make the HC plate a dual plate, in the same way that they do dual HC/PH driver licences. If you pick it up off the street it's a HC, if you phone up and get it dispatched it's a PH.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:33 pm 
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Karga wrote:
I've always thought that the best solution to this (given our 2 tier HC/PH system) is just to allow HCs to operate as PH vehicles when booked in advance, so you can agree a rate with the customer in advance.

When one of the PH lot get a booking from one local village to another local village they tell the punter that the job will clock from Chester because the driver has to drive out of town to get to them and then back again at the other end. They only apply this to jobs that don't either start or end in the local area.

Yes, I can't really recall the precise official justification for this (as opposed to the legal test), but if passengers are considered adequately protected when pre-booking PHVs (primarily because they can shop around, as opposed to the more captive market in the street hire scenario) then I don't see why this shouldn't apply to pre-booked HCs.

Karga wrote:
It would be fairly easy for the council to implement too. You just make the HC plate a dual plate, in the same way that they do dual HC/PH driver licences. If you pick it up off the street it's a HC, if you phone up and get it dispatched it's a PH

Or better still, change the legislation to accommodate this.

Don't really get involved in this kind of thing locally, but years ago I'm sure I recall a letter sent out by Fife Council saying effectively that pre-booked HC fares could be any level as long as it was agreed in advance. I think some local HCs were adding some sort of charge to the metered fare if they were hiked a considerable distance, but without any agreement beforehand, and there were some complaints.

Of course, that was under the Scottish legislation, and it's definitely a grey area. But I don't think there's ever been any litigation/case law under the relevant Act, and it's not something that's been discussed when the legislation has been reviewed, as far as I'm aware.


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