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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:09 pm 
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Ola is Uber’s new nightmare on London’s streets

Ola’s first week in London should set off alarm bells for rival Uber.

On Feb. 12, only two days after its debut in UK’s capital, downloads of Ola’s app in the country hit an all-time high of 44,337, a recent report by Boston-based app intelligence firm Apptopia shows. In comparison, Uber averaged 13,471 daily downloads in February.

The Bengaluru-based company got a boost from the incentives it offered in London as part of the launch. For instance, Ola gave new passengers a £25 ride credit and its 20,000-plus drivers in the city got to keep 100% of the revenue earned in those initial weeks.

Ola received a 15-month licence to operate in the British capital in July 2019. By the time it drove into London, it had already made a mark in other cities in the country. It began operating in Cardiff in August 2018 and expanded to Birmingham, Bristol, Liverpool, and Reading. The company said it has completed roughly three million rides outside of London with around 11,000 drivers.

While Ola’s outstanding performance of the first few weeks didn’t sustain, it’s still neck-and-neck with Uber. By Feb. 26, daily downloads of Ola’s app hovered close to Uber’s daily average.

Before Ola’s arrival, Uber was the undisputed leader of the UK’s ride-hailing market. Between March 2018 and 2019, the app was downloaded 5.5 million times in the UK. In comparison, a group comprising six of Uber’s biggest rivals cumulatively saw a mere 2.5 million downloads.

However, Uber has faced its own woes for a while. Local taxi regulator Transport for London (TfL) declined to renew its licence in late November 2019 following safety concerns. This was the second time its licence was denied in the past couple of years. That’s not all. The UK supreme court is yet to decide whether Uber’s drivers are “workers,” which could greatly increase the company’s overheads and force it to reevaluate its business model.

Adding to the mess, Uber could also face a hefty tax bill if the UK tax authorities classify it as a transportation provider and not a tech platform.

Besides Ola, Estonian firm Bolt (formerly Taxify) is the only significant competition to Uber in the UK. However, Ola could change the game.

“When Bolt relaunched in London in June 2019, it never had a moment quite like Ola is having right now,” said Adam Blacker, vice-president of insights at Apptopia. “What I mean by that is that its mobile app performance metrics never surpassed that of Uber, like Ola has for the time being.”

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:16 am 
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I just wonder where all these "new" drivers are coming from?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:29 pm 
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I just wonder where all these "new" drivers are coming from?


They'll be existing Uber drivers running both apps at the same time.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:27 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
I just wonder where all these "new" drivers are coming from?


They'll be existing Uber drivers running both apps at the same time.

Indeed, Uber's policy of allowing drivers to work with whoever they wish could well be the downfall of them.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:51 am 
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Indeed, Uber's policy of allowing drivers to work with whoever they wish could well be the downfall of them.


Bit difficult to call them self employed if you don't let them work for other ops. This is the sticky wicket a lot of private hire firms will find themselves on with the all the gig economy lawsuits.


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This is the sticky wicket a lot of private hire firms will find themselves on with the all the gig economy lawsuits.

Let's hope so.

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Battle for London's ride-hailing market is 'unsustainable', expert says

Interesting article from the Evening Standard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transpo ... 68536.html

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:58 pm 
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Mariusz Zabrocki, Kapten's UK general manager, which launched in London last year, said that they believe they can be the "category leader in London" but also believe the city has space for "several profitable players".


It will all settle down there must be a profit to be made it is a big market

The only thing that might cause problems is if their backers pull out which wouldn't be a problem for uber as they are a listed company

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It will all settle down there must be a profit to be made it is a big market

Personally I'm not so sure that will happen.

The barriers to entry for large scale operators are easily surmounted.

It took Uber years to get the amount of cars they have in London. Due to the way Uber allows drivers to work with whoever they wish to (a policy I fully support as a driver) Ola will have 10s of 1000s of cars within weeks/months of starting.

Thus, IMO, all that will happen is every year a big player will join the party meaning existing players can't up the price to gain that profitability.

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