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| Author: | StuartW [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 50+ Wakefield PHDs got Wolves licence because 'it's cheaper' |
Nothing particularly new here, but maybe a reminder that life goes on. More than 50 Wakefield taxi drivers get licence from Wolverhampton Council 'because it's cheaper' https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... er-2523460 Dozens of taxi drivers from Wakefield have got their licence from a council 106 miles away in the West Midlands, instead of the local authority, in the last three years. Wolverhampton Council issued more than 35,000 private hire and hackney carriage licences to cabbies all over the country between 2017 and 2019, including 51 to drivers in the Wakefield district, a Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed. It follows claims from Wakefield councillors that cabbies were going to Wolverhampton to get a licence because its fees were cheaper and its rules less stringent than other authorities. Taxi drivers are now allowed to trade anywhere in the country as long as they have a licence from a single local authority, after a 2015 law change. But the system has come under fire because councils can't enforce their own rules on cabbies with a licence from elsewhere, even if they trade in that area. The group representing taxi drivers in Wakefield has defended the system and said it does not compromise public safety. A spokesman for the Wakefield and District Private Hire and Hackney Carriage Association said: "The rules aren’t different in Wolverhampton, it’s more that it’s cheaper to get a licence. "The tests are outsourced to MOT stations which makes it easier. “If it’s good enough for Wolverhampton and safe for the public there then it’s good enough for everywhere else in our opinion. "Any change to the system would have to go through the government but I can’t see that happening." Wolverhampton Council did not respond to a request for comment. The FOI results showed that six Wakefield drivers obtained a licence from Wolverhampton in 2017, before 13 got one in 2018. There was then a sharp rise in 2019, with a further 32 cabbies going to the West Midlands authority for permission to trade. The figures showed that although the majority of licences Wolverhampton issued were to drivers based in the Midlands, cabbies from as far apart as Newcastle and Southampton had been granted a licence from the authority. More drivers from Wakefield obtained a licence over the three years than Leeds (43), Huddersfield (14) and Halifax (13). |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 50+ Wakefield PHDs got Wolves licence because 'it's chea |
Quote: A spokesman for the Wakefield and District Private Hire and Hackney Carriage Association said: "The rules aren’t different in Wolverhampton, it’s more that it’s cheaper to get a licence. "The tests are outsourced to MOT stations which makes it easier. “If it’s good enough for Wolverhampton and safe for the public there then it’s good enough for everywhere else in our opinion. But recall this article from July 2018, in which even councillors claimed drivers were 'sent' to Wolverhampton by local firms because they'd been refused by Wakefield (I say 'even' councillors, because this article demonstrated that they seemed to be well behind the curve with the affects of Deregulation Act.) Taxi drivers travelling more than 100 miles to get their licence after being rejected by Wakefield Council https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... cil-703221 Cabbies in Wakefield are travelling 106 miles to get their taxi licence from Wolverhampton because their rules are less strict, it has been claimed. Private hire drivers are able to operate anywhere in the country provided they have permission from a single local authority. And now Wakefield’s licensing committee has been told that companies in the district are sending their staff to the West Midlands to get their licence after they’ve failed to meet the requirements locally. The claims have been repeated in other parts of the UK and on Monday taxi drivers in Wolverhampton took part in a ‘go-slow’ protest, as they accused their council of making it too easy to enter the trade. It comes as councils in West Yorkshire are trying to agree on one set of taxi rules to cover the whole region. Councillor Elaine Blezard told the committee: “I’ve heard through taxi drivers that a lot of them are going to other councils to get their licences because of how stringent our rules are. “If we are working together (with other councils), why are they going to places other than Wakefield?” Councillor Yvonne Crewe said that at a recent meeting with local taxi bosses, one firm owner told her that he sent drivers to Wolverhampton because the process was “quicker”. She said she was not originally aware of the 2015 law change that meant cabbies could live and work away from the licensing authority. Coun Crewe said: “When I was first told this, I had visions of a convoy coming over the top of the M62 first thing in the morning, and then going back at night. “But this company’s drivers were refused here and they just sent them there. There must be something about Wolverhampton that makes them all go there and that worries me. “We don’t check them, so how do we know they are fit and proper people?” The BBC reported on Wednesday that Wolverhampton Council issued more than twice the number of private hire licences of any other local authority between March 2015 and March 2017. The Wakefield District Private Hire and Hackney Carriage Association, which represents drivers, has recently been in conflict with the local council about rises in licensing fees and tough new emission rules. Association co-chairman Wajid Ali claimed the licensing committee “didn’t have a clue” about the problems facing drivers in the district. He said: “Wakefield Council has some of the highest licensing fees in the country. “If you go to Wolverhampton, your licence costs £69 and you get it in 20 days. “It’s not for us to say what the rules should be. The law’s the law and we are abiding by it. Everything we’re doing is legal. Call it a loophole if you will, but if it’s there drivers have every right to take advantage of it. “We’ve been used as a cash cow by the council and we’ve been warning them of that for years.” |
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| Author: | heathcote [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 50+ Wakefield PHDs got Wolves licence because 'it's chea |
StuartW wrote: Quote: A spokesman for the Wakefield and District Private Hire and Hackney Carriage Association said: "The rules aren’t different in Wolverhampton, it’s more that it’s cheaper to get a licence. "The tests are outsourced to MOT stations which makes it easier. “If it’s good enough for Wolverhampton and safe for the public there then it’s good enough for everywhere else in our opinion. But recall this article from July 2018, in which even councillors claimed drivers were 'sent' to Wolverhampton by local firms because they'd been refused by Wakefield (I say 'even' councillors, because this article demonstrated that they seemed to be well behind the curve with the affects of Deregulation Act.) Taxi drivers travelling more than 100 miles to get their licence after being rejected by Wakefield Council https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... cil-703221 Cabbies in Wakefield are travelling 106 miles to get their taxi licence from Wolverhampton because their rules are less strict, it has been claimed. Private hire drivers are able to operate anywhere in the country provided they have permission from a single local authority. And now Wakefield’s licensing committee has been told that companies in the district are sending their staff to the West Midlands to get their licence after they’ve failed to meet the requirements locally. The claims have been repeated in other parts of the UK and on Monday taxi drivers in Wolverhampton took part in a ‘go-slow’ protest, as they accused their council of making it too easy to enter the trade. It comes as councils in West Yorkshire are trying to agree on one set of taxi rules to cover the whole region. Councillor Elaine Blezard told the committee: “I’ve heard through taxi drivers that a lot of them are going to other councils to get their licences because of how stringent our rules are. “If we are working together (with other councils), why are they going to places other than Wakefield?” Councillor Yvonne Crewe said that at a recent meeting with local taxi bosses, one firm owner told her that he sent drivers to Wolverhampton because the process was “quicker”. She said she was not originally aware of the 2015 law change that meant cabbies could live and work away from the licensing authority. Coun Crewe said: “When I was first told this, I had visions of a convoy coming over the top of the M62 first thing in the morning, and then going back at night. “But this company’s drivers were refused here and they just sent them there. There must be something about Wolverhampton that makes them all go there and that worries me. “We don’t check them, so how do we know they are fit and proper people?” The BBC reported on Wednesday that Wolverhampton Council issued more than twice the number of private hire licences of any other local authority between March 2015 and March 2017. The Wakefield District Private Hire and Hackney Carriage Association, which represents drivers, has recently been in conflict with the local council about rises in licensing fees and tough new emission rules. Association co-chairman Wajid Ali claimed the licensing committee “didn’t have a clue” about the problems facing drivers in the district. He said: “Wakefield Council has some of the highest licensing fees in the country. “If you go to Wolverhampton, your licence costs £69 and you get it in 20 days. “It’s not for us to say what the rules should be. The law’s the law and we are abiding by it. Everything we’re doing is legal. Call it a loophole if you will, but if it’s there drivers have every right to take advantage of it. “We’ve been used as a cash cow by the council and we’ve been warning them of that for years.” Wolverhampton Council are not a white as they think they are,they are breaching the Act of Parliament by authorising vehicles to be tested outside the district,40 outside licensing district. The Officers at this Council are not fit or proper persons and they must inform elected members that it is o.k. to break the law.Resulting due to the lack of investigation by the elected members to ensure that everything is legal makes them unfit to hold office. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 50+ Wakefield PHDs got Wolves licence because 'it's chea |
heathcote wrote: Wolverhampton Council are not a white as they think they are,they are breaching the Act of Parliament by authorising vehicles to be tested outside the district,40 outside licensing district. The Officers at this Council are not fit or proper persons and they must inform elected members that it is o.k. to break the law.Resulting due to the lack of investigation by the elected members to ensure that everything is legal makes them unfit to hold office. When we operated stretched limousines we had to go to Nottingham for the tests because Melton did not have a testing station on their list that could test a vehicle that big. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 50+ Wakefield PHDs got Wolves licence because 'it's chea |
What's this 'cross border issue' you mention? And for that matter what's this 'Brexit' thing I heard about? |
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| Author: | heathcote [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 50+ Wakefield PHDs got Wolves licence because 'it's chea |
grandad wrote: heathcote wrote: Wolverhampton Council are not a white as they think they are,they are breaching the Act of Parliament by authorising vehicles to be tested outside the district,40 outside licensing district. The Officers at this Council are not fit or proper persons and they must inform elected members that it is o.k. to break the law.Resulting due to the lack of investigation by the elected members to ensure that everything is legal makes them unfit to hold office. When we operated stretched limousines we had to go to Nottingham for the tests because Melton did not have a testing station on their list that could test a vehicle that big. Did you not have a dvla test centre for trucks and buses in your district.Them telling you to go outside the district was a breech of the Act. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 50+ Wakefield PHDs got Wolves licence because 'it's chea |
heathcote wrote: grandad wrote: heathcote wrote: Wolverhampton Council are not a white as they think they are,they are breaching the Act of Parliament by authorising vehicles to be tested outside the district,40 outside licensing district. The Officers at this Council are not fit or proper persons and they must inform elected members that it is o.k. to break the law.Resulting due to the lack of investigation by the elected members to ensure that everything is legal makes them unfit to hold office. When we operated stretched limousines we had to go to Nottingham for the tests because Melton did not have a testing station on their list that could test a vehicle that big. Did you not have a dvla test centre for trucks and buses in your district.Them telling you to go outside the district was a breech of the Act. No, there were no facilities in the district. They didn't tell us to go to Nottingham, we suggested it and they agreed. It was the Nottingham city council facility where all the Nottingham cabs were tested. |
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