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Up to 75,000 UK taxi drivers could take legal action against Mercedes-Benz in new emissions scandal



Tens of thousands of taxi drivers in the UK could bring a legal claim worth up to £5,000 each against Mercedes-Benz after the German car giant was accused of cheating emissions tests.


London litigation law firm Harcus Parker is now investigating claims on behalf of 500,000 UK Mercedes owners - this includes 75,000 owners of diesel Mercedes V-Class and Vito taxis - that the luxury car manufacturer installed unlawful ‘defeat devices’ to dodge emissions laws.


This meant that while, in tests, the vehicles appeared to conform with EU emissions regulations, once out on the road they actually pumped out up to 10 times more potentially lethal NOx (i.e. Nitrogen Oxide and Nitrogen Dioxide) emissions than they are allowed to emit.


Harcus Parker claims that customers overpaid for their vehicles as a result of the alleged defeat device and are entitled to compensation. Lawyers are also concerned that, after a ‘fix’ is applied by Mercedes drivers could see higher fuel and servicing bills, and – although it is too early to tell - there may also be a drop in resale prices.


It is estimated that as many as 250,000 Mercedes-Benz taxis in Europe and up to 75,000 the UK could be fitted with defeat devices similar to those used by Volkswagen – last month, the High Court ruled that the software used by Volkswagen was a ‘defeat device’, contrary to European law.


All diesel Mercedes V-Class or Vito vehicles, commonly used in London, that were manufactured between 2014 and 2018 could be affected, as could all standard Mercedes cars manufactured since 2011.


Damon Parker, managing partner at Harcus Parker, said: “Mercedes owners purchased these vehicles in part because of the reputation for engineering quality and prestige that the Mercedes-Benz brand commands. My clients are deeply disappointed that, rather than applying that technical know-how to the problem of making cars greener and more appropriate for our towns and cities, Mercedes appears to have chosen the easy route, presumably as a way to maximise profits.


“The issues in play are particularly acute for taxi drivers, who tend to buy vehicles based on their expected life-span and green credentials. The uncertainty brought about by the use of these defeat devices is worrying for my clients and taxi drivers generally.”


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Mercedes’ German parent company was fined EUR870m last year in a Stuttgart court for negligently failing to supervise the production of these vehicles by installing the devices. In issuing the fine, the court took account of “gains from the sale of the affected vehicles and saved expenses for the production of vehicles that comply with the regulatory requirements.


Mercedes has so far been slow to recall vehicles in the UK, as it is appealing the regulatory findings which were made against it in Germany, where it was forced to recall hundreds of thousands of cars.


Mr Parker added: “We expect, and in some cases have already seen, that Mercedes will issue a recall and provide owners with the opportunity to have their vehicles ‘fixed’. My clients have heard stories of reliability issues and performance damage in other vehicles which have been forced to have similar procedures applied to them. They do not want to suffer a similar fate, particularly in circumstances in which their livelihoods are at stake.”


Air quality is a huge issue in the UK, particularly in cities where many of these vehicles are driven. A report by the Royal College of Physicians in 2016 estimated that around 40,000 deaths each year are attributable to exposure to outdoor air pollution. NOx emissions in particular have been linked to diseases as diverse as childhood asthma and teenage psychosis.


Mr Parker commented: “It is obviously wrong for car manufacturers to continue to ignore rules on air quality and contribute to the ever-present problem of rapidly deteriorating air quality in our towns and cities.


“This claim is intended to bring these problems to light and give a new impetus to manufacturers, regulators and purchasers to introduce new, clean vehicles that can be used safely for years to come.”


Vehicle owners are being urged to find out more and register to bring a claim by visiting www.harcusparker.co.uk.


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Please post the story skippy the adds on that site make it impossible to read the story :roll:

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Please post the story skippy the adds on that site make it impossible to read the story :roll:



Perry Richardson
13 hours ago
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Up to 75,000 UK taxi drivers could take legal action against Mercedes-Benz in new emissions scandal



Tens of thousands of taxi drivers in the UK could bring a legal claim worth up to £5,000 each against Mercedes-Benz after the German car giant was accused of cheating emissions tests.


London litigation law firm Harcus Parker is now investigating claims on behalf of 500,000 UK Mercedes owners - this includes 75,000 owners of diesel Mercedes V-Class and Vito taxis - that the luxury car manufacturer installed unlawful ‘defeat devices’ to dodge emissions laws.


This meant that while, in tests, the vehicles appeared to conform with EU emissions regulations, once out on the road they actually pumped out up to 10 times more potentially lethal NOx (i.e. Nitrogen Oxide and Nitrogen Dioxide) emissions than they are allowed to emit.


Harcus Parker claims that customers overpaid for their vehicles as a result of the alleged defeat device and are entitled to compensation. Lawyers are also concerned that, after a ‘fix’ is applied by Mercedes drivers could see higher fuel and servicing bills, and – although it is too early to tell - there may also be a drop in resale prices.


It is estimated that as many as 250,000 Mercedes-Benz taxis in Europe and up to 75,000 the UK could be fitted with defeat devices similar to those used by Volkswagen – last month, the High Court ruled that the software used by Volkswagen was a ‘defeat device’, contrary to European law.


All diesel Mercedes V-Class or Vito vehicles, commonly used in London, that were manufactured between 2014 and 2018 could be affected, as could all standard Mercedes cars manufactured since 2011.


Damon Parker, managing partner at Harcus Parker, said: “Mercedes owners purchased these vehicles in part because of the reputation for engineering quality and prestige that the Mercedes-Benz brand commands. My clients are deeply disappointed that, rather than applying that technical know-how to the problem of making cars greener and more appropriate for our towns and cities, Mercedes appears to have chosen the easy route, presumably as a way to maximise profits.


“The issues in play are particularly acute for taxi drivers, who tend to buy vehicles based on their expected life-span and green credentials. The uncertainty brought about by the use of these defeat devices is worrying for my clients and taxi drivers generally.”


Image credit: Ross Campbell
Mercedes’ German parent company was fined EUR870m last year in a Stuttgart court for negligently failing to supervise the production of these vehicles by installing the devices. In issuing the fine, the court took account of “gains from the sale of the affected vehicles and saved expenses for the production of vehicles that comply with the regulatory requirements.


Mercedes has so far been slow to recall vehicles in the UK, as it is appealing the regulatory findings which were made against it in Germany, where it was forced to recall hundreds of thousands of cars.


Mr Parker added: “We expect, and in some cases have already seen, that Mercedes will issue a recall and provide owners with the opportunity to have their vehicles ‘fixed’. My clients have heard stories of reliability issues and performance damage in other vehicles which have been forced to have similar procedures applied to them. They do not want to suffer a similar fate, particularly in circumstances in which their livelihoods are at stake.”


Air quality is a huge issue in the UK, particularly in cities where many of these vehicles are driven. A report by the Royal College of Physicians in 2016 estimated that around 40,000 deaths each year are attributable to exposure to outdoor air pollution. NOx emissions in particular have been linked to diseases as diverse as childhood asthma and teenage psychosis.


Mr Parker commented: “It is obviously wrong for car manufacturers to continue to ignore rules on air quality and contribute to the ever-present problem of rapidly deteriorating air quality in our towns and cities.


“This claim is intended to bring these problems to light and give a new impetus to manufacturers, regulators and purchasers to introduce new, clean vehicles that can be used safely for years to come.”


Vehicle owners are being urged to find out more and register to bring a claim by visiting www.harcusparker.co.uk.


Image credit: Ross Campbell


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Up to 75,000 UK taxi drivers could take legal action against Mercedes-Benz in new emissions scandal

Are there really 75,000 Mercs plated in this country? :-k

That said the emissions fraud was used by most car markers, so we could all sue for a few quid.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:35 pm 
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Harcus Parker claims that customers overpaid for their vehicles as a result of the alleged defeat device and are entitled to compensation.

But did they over pay?

Having lower emissions, at least in theory, led to lower tax banding, which in turn led to lower tax rates. :-k

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:58 pm 
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Up to 75,000 UK taxi drivers could take legal action against Mercedes-Benz in new emissions scandal

Are there really 75,000 Mercs plated in this country?



Doubt it, Penso have only built 3500 So even if you double that amount accounting for cabdirect’s version that’s only 7,000. I think they’re counting P/H cars and non wav’s in there ‘guesstimate‘.


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I bought mine in 2017, it sounds like we didn’t get a genuine euro 6, it seems fitting the proper tech was to much trouble, I paid £42.5k, I think there is a case, so I’ve registered. Interesting times, but the thought of a recall and compensation sounds good to me.

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edders23 wrote:
Please post the story skippy the adds on that site make it impossible to read the story :roll:

The software template and all the stuff that makes it so slow to load hasn't improved any. In fact that's why I don't visit much now - by the time the page loads you feel as if it's old 'news' :lol:

And don't know if any one else has experienced this, but on most of the last few times I've visited, you wait ages for the whole thing to load, then the text of the article disappears before you get the chance to read it, and you get an error message. So you're left with all the ads and pop-ups etc, which probably use 99%+ of the bandwidth, and the stuff you actually want to read (which will use miniscule bandwidth) disappears :-o

Shame, because it's a good idea in principle, and they've obviously put a lot of work into it. But they really need a new software template, fewer bandwidth-hungry ads, and to get rid of the auto-load of the magazine version, which I suspect is the main thing that's making the pages so slow and clunky :?


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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:22 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
I bought mine in 2017, it sounds like we didn’t get a genuine euro 6, it seems fitting the proper tech was to much trouble, I paid £42.5k, I think there is a case, so I’ve registered. Interesting times, but the thought of a recall and compensation sounds good to me.

A carbon copy of the VW scandal.

My 2014 VW was one of the affected motors. They fannied around for a couple of years, then eventually recalled the cars for a modification.

I'd read that it could cause problems, so told them I didn't want it done. And I think the mod DID cause a lot of problems (think it was even on Watchdog) so glad I told them not to do it.

But the car's been fine engine-wise, and it wouldn't really put me off buying another VW. Everyone knew the fuel consumption/emissions figures were manipulated anyway, so I wasn't that surprised when it all kicked off. Apart, of course, with the politics involved, but that was hardly a surprise either :?

There's been a class action rumbling on for years as well, and can't really be bothered looking to see how it's doing.

But if it eventually did lead to some form of compo, then I wouldn't be complaining :)


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