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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:02 am 
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Not sure if the screens in the photo are the same ones motioned in the article, but if they are, they seem quite substantial :-o

And not sure if the vehicle photographed with the screens is the same one the driver is photographed beside, but if I had to guess I think it says Kia on the steering wheel :idea:

Is that a Kia the driver is standing beside?


Coronavirus: 'You can't stay two metres from a taxi driver'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52712542

Scottish taxi drivers are asking for urgent clarity on anti-coronavirus measures for private hire cabs.

Taxi owners want the Scottish government to intervene and allow them to install protective screens in their vehicles.

The drivers' trade association wants to use a crash tested screen design which has been approved by insurance companies and which is already allowed by some English councils.

No official guidance has been given.

'Most vulnerable profession'

Maintaining a two-metre (6ft) gap between driver and passenger is not possible inside a private hire car and the risks are very real.

The Office for National Statistics in England found that security guards, chefs and taxi drivers were the most vulnerable professions in terms of Covid-19 death rates, with male taxi drivers dying at a rate of more than 36 per 100,000.

United Private Hire Drivers which represents many drivers in Scotland says there have been six coronavirus deaths among private hire and taxi drivers north of the border, with half of them in Glasgow.

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Barry Sloan, the association's Glasgow rep, was shocked by the deaths and is now demanding that something is done to protect private hire drivers across Scotland.

He already wears a mask when passengers are in his mini cab, but says drivers need screens to protect themselves and their customers.

He said: "We have been in contact with the council since week one of Covid-19. We agree that if screens have to be installed it is going to have to be regulated in some way. The two screens we took to them were both crash-tested and have also had risk assessments done on them.

"Exactly what the council asked for, we replied with those and the response we got was that they were now seeking government guidance."

Approved design

But he said that the Scottish government has been slow in issuing guidance for all sectors which work in close proximity with customers.

The association has asked the Scottish government for guidance and is yet to receive a response.

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Mr Sloan's favoured design is by taxi fitters Cabcare, who've already supplied private hires in a number of English councils but so far are not being authorised by councils in Scotland despite the design being approved by nine major insurance companies.

Kirkintilloch-based Elliot Farmer is Cabcare's sales director.

He said: "It's soft and bendable and it is not going to break in any impact. It is fitted to every car and to the driver - so it means they are comfortable driving the car. You can see there is no obstruction to space in the back because it is moulded into the car.

He added: "Up to this point every single insurance company that's been contacted by a driver has had no objections to it. We have all the information on the materials used, the simulation crash testing and at the moment we think we are the only company that has done this.

"This is not going away tomorrow. This is long-term. It could be a year before we go back to some kind of normality."

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At last Thursday's Scottish government coronavirus briefing, Nicola Sturgeon promised to bring some clarity and consult with drivers, but also pointed out that local councils are the licensing authorities.

But for their part one of the largest taxi licensing authorities, Glasgow City Council, said they fully understood the anxiety but were waiting for guidance from the Scottish government.

'Between 20 and 30 hires a day'

Glasgow transport consultant Dave Holladay says local authority discretion is fine in normal times but in this Covid-19 emergency a national approach is urgently needed.

He said: "Nobody has taken the issue by the scruff of the neck and said this is how we manage the risk.

"The average private hire is picking up between 20 and 30 fares a day with one driver. If that driver is infected, he is infecting 20 or 30 passengers, or if one of those passengers is infected they infect the cab and the driver and the next passengers that pass through that cab. This is why we should be putting together guidance for taxi licensing."

The Scottish government told the BBC they were taking the issues with taxis very seriously and were reviewing the published guidance daily to ensure the spread of the virus was contained. The spokesperson said they were looking at how to make secure safe workplaces across a whole range of sectors, including for private hire drivers.


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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:13 am 
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Glasgow transport consultant Dave Holladay says local authority discretion is fine in normal times but in this Covid-19 emergency a national approach is urgently needed.

Can't see how the local/national equation is any different from normal.

Only real difference is that it's more urgent, and more newsworthy?

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"The average private hire is picking up between 20 and 30 fares a day with one driver. If that driver is infected, he is infecting 20 or 30 passengers, or if one of those passengers is infected they infect the cab and the driver and the next passengers that pass through that cab. This is why we should be putting together guidance for taxi licensing."

At a rough guess I'd say that even if someone infected is in the cab not everyone else who gets in will become infected.

And even if the driver is infected, doubt he automatically infects everyone who gets in.

Like the job totals, suspect it's a tad exaggerated :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 11:24 am 
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In the Scottish borders most taxis are carrying on as normal, ranking up carrying passengers in the front, or even full car loads , some are traveling from up to 20 miles away just to work as normal, none of the ones traveling have any essential work


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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:15 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
In the Scottish borders most taxis are carrying on as normal, ranking up carrying passengers in the front, or even full car loads , some are traveling from up to 20 miles away just to work as normal, none of the ones traveling have any essential work


They may be carrying on as normal but i'll bet their workload is anything but normal, I know mine isn't and the other companies round about are all parked up as well.


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