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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:51 pm 

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Well looks like the SNP Government has included the trades (both HC and PH) in its definition of public transport.

There's an exemption for *drivers* where there's a screen (I've highlighted the relevant section below), but there's no detail here, so how precisely that will be defined isn't clear. And it reads like the exemption will only apply to drivers, so presumably passengers will still have to wear the masks even if there's a screen and the driver doesn't have to wear a mask.

But I assume the screen exemption means that front seat passengers wouldn't be allowed, but who knows.

But overall the rule seems pretty clear :? ... coverings/

Face coverings

Physical distancing, hand washing and respiratory hygiene, are the most important and effective measures we can all adopt to prevent the spread of coronavirus. Therefore the wearing of facial coverings must not be used as an alternative to any of these other precautions.

As some people can have the virus but experience no symptoms (asymptomatic infection), wearing a face covering in an enclosed environment may help protect other people from catching the virus.

However, it remains the case that anyone with symptoms and all members of their household (whether they have symptoms or not), must self-isolate and adhere to the guidance on individual and household isolation on NHS Inform.

After careful consideration of the medical and scientific evidence and taking into account the representations of transport staff and the views of the public we have concluded that people must wear a face covering on public transport and public transport premises such as train stations and airports from 22 June.

Though the scientific evidence on the benefits of their use is limited, there may be some benefit in wearing a face covering when entering an enclosed space such as a public transport vehicle or in a railway or bus station or airport where physical distancing is more difficult and where there is a risk of close contact with multiple people that an individual would not usually meet. This measure will also rebuild public confidence in the use of our public transport.
People must wear a face covering on public transport and public transport premises such as train stations and airports from 22 June

Accordingly, face covering must be worn by all passengers and staff or operators in the following settings:

    train services including the Glasgow subway

    bus services and the Edinburgh tram

    taxi and private hire vehicles

    bus stations, railway stations and airports

    ferry services (unless the ferry is open to the elements and physical distancing can be achieved, or the vessel is large enough that physical distancing can be achieved)

    airline services

Specific exemptions provide that certain categories of people are not required to wear a face covering. This includes children under five years of age, a constable or an emergency responder acting in the course of their duty. Staff such as drivers who are physically separated, by means of, for example, screens, from other staff and passengers are also exempt from wearing face coverings.

You may also have a reasonable excuse not to wear a face covering if, for example:

    you have a health condition where a face covering would be inappropriate because it would cause difficulty, pain or severe distress or anxiety or because you cannot apply a covering and wear it in the proper manner safely and consistently.

    you have a reasonable need to eat or drink

    you need to take medication

    you need to communicate with someone else who relies on lip reading

    a relevant person, such as a police officer, asks you to remove your face covering.

You must provide your own face covering when travelling on public transport. A face covering is a facial covering of the mouth and nose, that is made of cloth or other textiles and through which you can breathe, for example a scarf. You may also use if you prefer a face visor but it must cover your nose and mouth completely. It is most important that what you wear is comfortable when it is being worn.

Religious face coverings that cover the mouth and the nose count as face coverings for these regulations.

When applying or removing the covering, it is important that you wash your hands first and avoid touching your face. After each use, you must wash a fabric face covering at 60 degrees centigrade or dispose of it safely.

In addition to having to wear a face covering on public transport we strongly recommend that you wear a face covering in other enclosed environments, such as shops, as a precautionary measure to stop the spread of the virus.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:01 pm 
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As I've said I'm open minded on face coverings and if the rules come out saying we need to wear them then that wouldn't be an issue for me.

However one has to wonder why these rules didn't come out in March. :-k


PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:41 pm 

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For what it's worth, the regulations don't seem to actually mention taxis and private hire vehicles. They relate to using a 'passenger transport service' (and 'passenger transport services premises')

A 'passenger transport service' is defined as 'a service provided for the carriage of passengers by road, railway, tramway, air or sea'.

Interestingly, the face covering requirement doesn't apply to a 'school transport service', so that presumably means both driver and pupils exempt during a school run.

The screen exemption is as follows: '...a person providing a passenger transport service, or an employee of that person, where there is a partition between the person or employee and members of the public'.

So what would amount to a 'partition' is anyone's guess - a partition in a TX, presumably OK, but some kind of retro-fitted screen in a PHV? Who knows, and I suspect they wouldn't know themselves if asked. Suspect it would depend on what coverage the screen gives in %age terms, and how solid it is - doubt if the flimsy plastic screens would be adequate. But if in doubt, just use a face covering anyway.


'face covering” means a covering of any type which covers a person’s nose and mouth.'

So would a scarf or similar be adequate? :?

Anyway, interesting to note that once again it's not about the definition of public transport, as I kind of predicted [-(

It's simply 'passenger transport service'.

I mean, if you were flying Business Class from Heathrow to Aberdeen it would be a stretch to call it public transport, so obviously a wider definition was required.

Anyway, read it all here if anyone's interested:

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:24 pm 
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No front seat passengers

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