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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:07 am 
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By the way, this forum uses the Hex colour system for font colours - you can use the colour palette at the side of the window when posting your message, but that's just a few basic colours, and it seems you can have any colour you want as long as you know the Hex code.

The Hex equivalent of Pantone 485 is #da291c

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This is the proposed Darlington HC colour


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:21 pm 
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StuartW wrote:

This is the proposed Darlington HC colour

That doesn't look like a Ferrari red to me. :-k

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:32 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
StuartW wrote:

This is the proposed Darlington HC colour

That doesn't look like a Ferrari red to me. :-k

Of course, it will probably look different on different computer screens, and that won't be the same as the real world. My laptop was only £180 brand new, so at the cheap end, and the screen colours aren't exactly the most 'vibrant' you'll see :oops:

More importantly, though, I doubt if lettering like that above would convey the colour in the way it would look on a car. That's why I went for the biggest and boldest font available, but even then it won't look the same as on something covering a large area.

And, to be fair to DBC, shades that won't look that different on a computer screen would look a lot more different if you saw them on two different cars, side-by-side, 'in the flesh'.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:11 pm 
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Darlington cabbies WILL NOT have to paint their taxis Ferrari red

A COUNCIL has said its new taxi policy will not require all vehicles be painted the same shade of red.

Darlington Borough Council is due to discuss a proposed new taxi policy next week.

Plans for all of the town's taxis to be painted the same shade of red as Royal Mail vans have been put on hold following concerns by committee members that manufacturers may no longer be producing vehicles popular with the taxi trade in this particular shade.

Councillor Brian Jones, chairman of the council's licensing committee, said: “The key aim of the policy is to ensure the safety and welfare of the public, encourage environmental sustainability, and ensure efficient taxi and private hire services in the borough.

“We sought the views of local residents and the taxi trade when drawing up the revised policy and have taken those comments on board.

“We want to ensure those using the taxis and private hire vehicles operating in the borough feel safe and comfortable and that they meet all the standards required.

“We’re also looking to streamline the application process to make it easier for drivers and operators and the proposed changes will provide clarity for the licensed trade and ensure the licensing regime will continue to protect the travelling public.”

Key amendments include the introduction of new age requirements for licensed vehicles to help improve air quality and reduce emissions.

The committee also agreed that a longer-term plan to help reduce emissions be included in the policy as well as a requirement that drivers follow Public Health guidance in response to national emergencies as part of their codes of practice.

On-line Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) update subscription will be mandatory to allow a smooth integration with a new on-line licensing application process which is currently in development. It will also allow for more frequent checking of drivers, as required under the new government standards.

A consultation was held during the summer ahead of the publication of a revised draft taxi policy.

If approved, the new policy will come into force from 1 January 2021.

The revised policy and key proposals are available on the council’s website.

It will be considered at a meeting on Thursday, November 26.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:28 am 
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Plans for all of the town's taxis to be painted the same shade of red as Royal Mail vans have been put on hold following concerns by committee members that manufacturers may no longer be producing vehicles popular with the taxi trade in this particular shade.

Manufacturers may *no longer* be producing this particular shade?

Did they ever? Apart, of course, from Ferrari.

Dozens of shades of red available, hundreds even, so chances of many manufacturers producing that particular shade probably pretty remote, even when red was a more popular colour for cars than it is today.

Suspect most manufacturers will produce one shade of red, if any, and chances of it being the specified shade pretty remote.

Which should have been obvious even before the council proposed a specific shade of red.

Maybe it's called 'Ferrari red' for a reason :-o


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:23 pm 
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Ah but then guildford have to paint their vehicles the colour of puke as I'm sure no car manufacturers in their right mind would do so

and then there is Bristol Blue again similar situation so there is precedent :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:02 pm 
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If they want a pacific colour they would have to give the correct formula and who the paint is made by #-o

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:25 am 
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edders23 wrote:
Ah but then guildford have to paint their vehicles the colour of puke as I'm sure no car manufacturers in their right mind would do so

and then there is Bristol Blue again similar situation so there is precedent :wink:

Indeed, but unless the whole Darlington trade ended up buying Ferraris, it was going to be resprays or wraps for the whole fleet.

But the councillors there obviously think that's OTT =D>

But the initial thinking was obviously that the precise shade specified would be more readily available 'off the shelf', but obviously that's not the case.

Which many of us could have told them before it got to the consultation stage [-(


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:25 am 
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If they want a pacific colour they would have to give the correct formula and who the paint is made by #-o

You mean as in Pacific blue? :badgrin:

(Sorry, couldn't resist that one.)

But you're right - and they did specify the precise colour, but that would either mean a respray or wrap, which thankfully the council seems to have decided wasn't a realistic option (I would imagine that it wouldn't be difficult to get the precise paint or whatever, but obviously that and respraying/wrapping the car doesn't come cheap.)

By the way, if anyone wants Pacific blue, apparently this is the precise specification :D

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In a RGB color space, hex #1ca9c9 (also known as Pacific Blue) is composed of 11% red, 66.3% green and 78.8% blue. Whereas in a CMYK color space, it is composed of 86.1% cyan, 15.9% magenta, 0% yellow and 21.2% black. It has a hue angle of 191.1 degrees, a saturation of 75.5% and a lightness of 44.9%.

In fact this is it :-o

Pacific blue


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:49 am 
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StuartW wrote:
MR T wrote:
If they want a pacific colour they would have to give the correct formula and who the paint is made by #-o

You mean as in Pacific blue? :badgrin:

(Sorry, couldn't resist that one.)

But you're right - and they did specify the precise colour, but that would either mean a respray or wrap, which thankfully the council seems to have decided wasn't a realistic option (I would imagine that it wouldn't be difficult to get the precise paint or whatever, but obviously that and respraying/wrapping the car doesn't come cheap.)

By the way, if anyone wants Pacific blue, apparently this is the precise specification :D

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In a RGB color space, hex #1ca9c9 (also known as Pacific Blue) is composed of 11% red, 66.3% green and 78.8% blue. Whereas in a CMYK color space, it is composed of 86.1% cyan, 15.9% magenta, 0% yellow and 21.2% black. It has a hue angle of 191.1 degrees, a saturation of 75.5% and a lightness of 44.9%.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ho ... 369476706&
In fact this is it :-o

Pacific blue

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:32 am 
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Someone who worked in the engineering department of the old LNER just before nationalization told me that although the colour to paint the locos was specified in reality works and depots just mixed what paint they had to hand so locos appeared in dozens of variations of the shade.

And another totally useless fact he told me that the local cement works painted all their wagons and lorries in a pale green shade OFFICIALLY known as Gooseshit green

The same would be the case with resprays because colour matching is not an exact science it would be almost impossible to spray every car the exact same match and then of course exposure to sunlight tends to fade the colours so over time the vehicles would change colour anyway

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:46 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
exposure to sunlight tends to fade the colours so over time the vehicles would change colour anyway

Quite right, and the red end of the spectrum would bleach more quickly.

On boats the sails break down over time so owners who have "Roller Reefing" (winding the sail around the boom or forestay) have a "sacrificial strip" sewn to the edge of the sail so that when the sail is stowed it is protected from the ultraviolet (UV). These are predominantly blue and almost never red for exactly this reason. The best colour would be actually be violet, but that looks a bit naff, stowed or sailing. The hull of the boat is also better off being to be towards the violet end as well, so there are lots of dark blue boats and very few red. The most common colour is white which does reflect off some UV.

Maybe our ancestors didn't use Woad to scare off the opposition, maybe it was good as sunburn protection!

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