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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:02 pm 
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Same old, same old. But you wouldn't have thought there would be much of this kind of thing going on just now. But if police not interested at the best of times, can't see them being particularly interested at the moment :?


Edinburgh taxi drivers raise 'serious' safety concerns over 'unchecked' illegal private hire pick-ups as voice recording exposes unlicensed driver

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/ ... er-3003287

Edinburgh cabbies have claimed a lack of enforcement on illegal street pickups made by private hire drivers could allow more opportunists to target vulnerable customers - after a recording emerged of one driver admitting he wasn’t licensed.

The city’s taxi driver union has made fresh calls for a dedicated team - set up by the city council and enforced by police - to clamp down on private hire drivers who ply for trade despite laws which state their fares must be pre-booked.

It comes after one Edinburgh taxi driver, who has worked in the city for 20 years, recorded a Saturday night exchange in George Street with another driver who, when questioned, agreed that Uber had not allowed him to obtain a license.

The taxi driver said that, moments before recording the exchange last month, he spotted the driver making a u-turn in the street to pick up a fare, prompting him to go over and check his license and badge.

The taxi driver said: “This is not a one-off. I have been complaining about this for three years.

“Private hire insurance does not involve [on street] pick-ups so they are uninsured if they pick up illegally.”

The taxi driver claimed that, just before the incident, he asked two police officers passing by if they would check whether several private hire vehicles parked in the vicinity were operating legally, but was told they had been instructed to “walk away” by a superior officer and that he should "deal with the problem himself."

And he claimed that, on another occasion a year ago outside the Dome, he was told by a police officer it was more of a priority for them to get people home quickly at the end of a night.

He added: “It’s not a concern for police until someone crashes a vehicle or someone is assaulted. What’s the point in having laws?”

A police spokesperson said “targeted operations” over the use of unlicensed vehicles have previously been carried out and that these will continue.

The spokesperson insisted both police and Edinburgh City Council’s licensing department work together to ensure those in the trade comply with their licensing conditions, adding: “The safety of residents and visitors within our communities is paramount and robust action will be taken against those who do not adhere to the conditions of their licence as well as those seeking to operate a taxi service out with the licensing system.

“We would encourage any member of the public who believes someone is operating a vehicle out with their terms and conditions, or without a licence at all, to contact Police Scotland. To operate or drive a vehicle without a licence is a criminal offence.”

Chairman of the Unite Edinburgh cab branch, Scott Blair, has repeatedly called for a dedicated enforcement team in the Capital, especially at weekends, and says he has “serious concerns” about illegal pick-ups.

He said: “Anyone could be driving your family home.

"It’s not a matter of if, it’s when. It could be a physical assault, and involve people who are under the influence.”

Councillor Denis Dixon, vice-convenor of the Regulatory Committee, said their officers are working with police to monitor and inspect the private hire and taxi trades to ensure the public are safe, with periodic spot checks carried out and complaints investigated.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:03 pm 
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It comes after one Edinburgh taxi driver, who has worked in the city for 20 years, recorded a Saturday night exchange in George Street with another driver who, when questioned, agreed that Uber had not allowed him to obtain a license.

As usual, some of the wording here is a bit questionable, but I assume this just means the driver admitted to not having a licence for public hire rather than not having a licence at all :?

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The taxi driver claimed that, just before the incident, he asked two police officers passing by if they would check whether several private hire vehicles parked in the vicinity were operating legally, but was told they had been instructed to “walk away” by a superior officer and that he should "deal with the problem himself."

And he claimed that, on another occasion a year ago outside the Dome, he was told by a police officer it was more of a priority for them to get people home quickly at the end of a night.

Sounds about right.

But, of course, we then get the boilerplate press release from the council's 'comms' department wittering on about safety being 'paramount', and 'robust' enforcement blah, blah. Surprised they didn't say they're 'working closely' with police, but that's more or less what they are saying [-(


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:07 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
Same old, same old. But you wouldn't have thought there would be much of this kind of thing going on just now. But if police not interested at the best of times, can't see them being particularly interested at the moment :?


Edinburgh taxi drivers raise 'serious' safety concerns over 'unchecked' illegal private hire pick-ups as voice recording exposes unlicensed driver

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/ ... er-3003287

Edinburgh cabbies have claimed a lack of enforcement on illegal street pickups made by private hire drivers could allow more opportunists to target vulnerable customers - after a recording emerged of one driver admitting he wasn’t licensed.

Councillor Denis Dixon, vice-convenor of the Regulatory Committee, said their officers are working with police to monitor and inspect the private hire and taxi trades to ensure the public are safe, with periodic spot checks carried out and complaints investigated.


Another Councillor and Council who do not believe that enforcement must be carried out 24/7 and not only periodically which can be once in a blue moon.
All Councils in my opinion do not believe in any enforcement other than from behind a desk in office hours, they con the public into believing they are ensuring their safety.
The majority of drivers are the only ones ensuring public safety.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:02 am 
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All Councils in my opinion do not believe in any enforcement other than from behind a desk in office hours, they con the public into believing they are ensuring their safety.

Tell me about it :roll:

This article is a classic example of the reality v the council's PR spiel.

One of the best examples I can remember was an article in the Dundee evening paper about fare dodgers (can't recall if it was mentioned on here).

Anyway, reasonably bog standard article, but final paragraph was a statement from police saying it was a civil matter, and nothing to do with them.

That was in the early edition of the paper. However, by the later edition, the article was identical except for the last paragraph, which was police wittering on about criminal offences, robust enforcement, working closely with the trade, blah, blah.

What had happened, I suspect was that the media relations department (or whatever) cocked up first time round, and someone got a rocket up their ar$e.

Of course, it probably made zero difference to what was happening on the streets, but it corrected the police's PR cock-up. Job done [-(


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