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| Author: | StuartW [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless nights |
'I can hardly put food on the table': The taxi drivers struggling to survive in the pandemic https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-19193326 "Yesterday I went home with £35. On Monday I made £22" ![]() Image: Manchester Evening News Abdul Nawroz has been at work for more than two hours and so far he's made £4. The black cab driver is waiting for his next fare on the taxi rank opposite Zara in the city centre. But, if the last few days and weeks are anything to go by, he might be there a while. "Yesterday I went home with £35. On Monday I made £22 - that's from 8.30am until after 4pm," he says. "The other week I went to the airport. I was waiting seven hours then I got a £6.50 fare to Wythenshawe. That was it." Lockdown has wiped out a huge part of the taxi trade. The shoppers, pub and club goers, tourists and office staff cabbies rely on for their livelihoods are largely staying away from the city centre. And, since Tier 3 measures were imposed, drivers say the situation has got even worse - with national restrictions this week set to be a further body blow. ![]() Image: Manchester Evening News Abdul, a 49-year-old dad-of-two from Crumpsall, says his takings have halved since the latest restrictions were introduced. He said: "From July to September it seemed to be coming back. It was slow but it was coming. "But since Tier 3 it's just gone down. You used to be able to make £100 on a weekend night, but since Tier 3 the weekend has just absolutely gone." The dire situation has forced Abdul to look for another job. He's hoping to be taken on as delivery driver at the BCA car auctioneers in Belle Vue. But, in the meantime, he's worried how he's going to pay his bills. He said: "I cannot survive like this. "I've got about £2,000 in savings but that's coming to an end now. "I've got a mortgage, insurance, bills, running costs, everything. "I have nothing else. I can hardly put food on the table. "I love my job, I've done it for 14 years, but I'm desperate." Across town on Portland Street fellow cabbie Carl Wynter tells a similar story. The 50-year-old from Reddish in Stockport has been driving a black cab in the city for the best part of 18 years. ![]() Image: Manchester Evening News So far this week he's worked about 35 hours and taken £136.40. Two government grants have allowed him to just about keep his head above water, but with a long winter ahead and no end in sight for the virus, Carl's worried what the future will hold. "Before lockdown I'd do 12-18 jobs a day. Since lockdown I haven't seen a day where I've done 10 jobs. "I keep a spreadsheet of everything. Without the grants my earnings would have gone down 76.7%. Even with the grants it's down 44.6%. "The cab is on finance. It costs me £1,000 a month to run. Before lockdown I'd never missed a payment, but I had a six month payment break and I've just called them back to say I'm still struggling can I have another break? "If they say no I don't know what I'll do." Carl says the stress is having a huge impact on his mental health. "I'm not sleeping, I've lost weight, I am constantly stressed. "It's affecting me in every sense. "I can't help but think about what's going to happen in the future. "I've got three apps (for picking up fares) on my phones and I'm looking at them all the time. "I'm checking it at night, I'm up at 5am, straight on the phone to see if there's a local fare I can get to start the day off, but there hardly ever is. "I can never switch off. "My Mrs works full-time so she's helping me out, but I'm worried about the pressure that's putting on her. That's my biggest worry to be honest. "I'm a 50-year-old black man. I've been driving a cab for 20 years. If I lose this job, nobody's going to employ me." Outside the Edwardian Hotel on Peter Street, Kader Ishmaiel is flicking through a cab drivers' WhatsApp group as he waits for his next fare. Among the dozens of messages, several stand out from cabbies hoping to sell their taxi licence plates. Before lockdown Kader says a plate could fetch £50,000. Now, those looking to leave the trade will be lucky to get much more than a fifth of that. The dad-of-three said: "There are lots of plates for sale. "Lots of drivers are trying to find new jobs. "Today I've had two fares - £3.50 to Strangeways and £12.50 to Eccles," Kader adds. "That counts as a good job nowadays. "I'm lucky, I got two grants and I had some money saved up for a holiday, otherwise I don't know what I would have done. "But I don't know how long I can go on like this. "I'm looking for another job, but because this is my own cab I don't know what to do." |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
It's rubbish everywhere. But it will get better early next year if drivers can manage to get by till then.
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
Quote: Before lockdown Kader says a plate could fetch £50,000. Now, those looking to leave the trade will be lucky to get much more than a fifth of that. So he's saying Manc plates still worth £10k? Didn't think they'd still be worth £50k per lockdown, though. £50k I think was around the peak in Glasgow and Edinburgh, maybe 10-15 years ago, but apparently maybe just worth half that or less even before lockdown. Any word on plate values elsewhere? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
Quote: Any word on plate values elsewhere? B&H down to £20,000 ish. Think that's more down to Uber than Covid. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
I don't quite understand this if Manc plates worth £50K then trade must have been OK pre-pandemic and yet we have had 2 stories on here of Manc drivers committing suicide in the recent past. I was under the impression that trade in Manchester has been pretty bleak for the last 5 to 10 years or have I been given completely the wrong impression ? |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
edders23 wrote: I don't quite understand this if Manc plates worth £50K then trade must have been OK pre-pandemic and yet we have had 2 stories on here of Manc drivers committing suicide in the recent past. I was under the impression that trade in Manchester has been pretty bleak for the last 5 to 10 years or have I been given completely the wrong impression ? Indeed, just what I was thinking. Suspect the £50k plate value refers to the all-time peak, not the precise value pre-Covid. I mean, it's not as if subtle inaccuracies in reports like this are a rarity - I *always* take stuff like that with a pinch of salt. In fact, at a stretch you could just about say that plates were worth £20k (say) pre-Covid, but that the statement in the piece isn't incorrect: "Before lockdown Kader says a plate could fetch £50,000." Ah, but how long before lockdown And note the word *could*
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| Author: | rashid [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
I think plate value has disappeared in many towns and city’s even with number restrictions Many cabs on sale here in mk even with just cab value no added plate value but still no one buying Only place I’ve spoke to someone which has value is Oxford apparently 125k? No too sure if that’s true |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
rashid wrote: Only place I’ve spoke to someone which has value is Oxford apparently 125k? No too sure if that’s true That was defo the value a few years back, but I think one of the Oxford drivers mentioned on here a little while back that prices had plummeted in recent years. Suspect the drop has a lot to do with the likes of Uber and the fact that new vehicles are £60,000 plus, rather than the current health situation. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manc HCDs tell of £20 shifts, stress and sleepless night |
Quote: Only place I’ve spoke to someone which has value is Oxford apparently 125k? No too sure if that’s true Once upon a time, maybe. But of course plateholders will try to big the value up, especially if they're trying to sell. Of course, in New York a bubble was created with nonsense like that, and plates ended up changing hands for almost $1 million. But in reality probably worth a fraction of that, hence the rash of suicides in the last year or so. |
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