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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:29 am 
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Cab firm Addison Lee to go fully electric by 2023

https://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes. ... tric-2023/

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Cab company Addison Lee has pledged it will operate only electric vehicles from 2023.

The London firm said it is investing £160 million to shift its 4,000-strong fleet to electric.

This will involve putting 200 Volkswagen ID.4 vehicles on the capital’s roads every month from November.

The commitment is the largest single order of electric vehicles made by the UK’s private hire industry, according to Addison Lee.

The firm’s chief executive Liam Griffin said: “As the transport provider of choice for many businesses and passengers, we know that we play a critical role in London’s transport network.

“Over the years, we have invested in our vehicles and technology to ensure we do all we can to make London a greener place.

“We are now going even further, by partnering with Volkswagen to invest in a rapid transition to electric.

“In doing so, we can help more businesses reduce their carbon footprint and give passengers greater access to green, safe and premium transport options as life gets back to normal.”

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said: “As we continue working tirelessly to decarbonise our transport network, I am thrilled to see Addison Lee lead the way through pledging to electrify their fleet by 2023.

“This Government has committed to reach net zero by 2050. With more than 500,000 electric vehicles now on our roads and nearly 25,000 public charge points, we’re at the beginning of an electric vehicle revolution which will help create communities free from pollution as well as supporting thousands of jobs in the supply chain over the coming decades.”

Another private hire firm, Uber, is aiming for all its cars in London to be fully electric by 2025.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:30 am 
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Never heard of the Volkswagen ID.4, but interesting that Addy Lee going down more of an SUV route.

According to this the cheapest model is £34k with a range of around 210 miles.

To get a range in excess of 300 miles the model's book price would be £41k :-o

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswage ... ices-specs


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:28 pm 
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£34 K......way to rich for me I'm afraid.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:33 pm 
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This will involve putting 200 Volkswagen ID.4 vehicles on the capital’s roads every month from November.

That is some serious investment.

I just hope they can ensure the vehicles are fully charged at all times.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:46 pm 
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Don't forget their drivers pay £350 a week plus rental rates so the vehicles would be paid off in 2 years and they have the buying power to probably get them for under £30K apiece

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:56 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Don't forget their drivers pay £350 a week plus rental rates so the vehicles would be paid off in 2 years and they have the buying power to probably get them for under £30K apiece


none of which will make its way to the drivers,just into a/l coffers,probably an excuse to increase the drivers weigh ins even more

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:59 pm 
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Well it's all going swimmingly after just a fortnight.

But who would have expected this? :roll:


'Insufficient, inefficient and inconsistent': Addison Lee slams London's public charging network just weeks into using new electric taxis

    • Taxi firm started using 100 new VW ID.4 EVs in the capital since 22 November
    • It plans to have a fully-electric fleet by 2023 with around 4,000 battery-only cars
    • Addison Lee drivers have reported on a poor charging infrastructure in London
    • After just two weeks using EVs, drivers revealed rapid chargers are difficult to find and more than half are out of order

Taxi giant Addison Lee has called for urgent investment in the public charging network after experiencing its first two weeks of using electric vehicles in London.

Bosses announced in September that the company will transition to a fully-electric taxi fleet by 2023, which started with the introduction of 100 zero-emission Volkswagen ID.4 SUVs in late November.

However, after just over a fortnight of using the plug-in vehicles, Addison Lee has provided a damning report on the public charging infrastructure in the capital.

It says the network 'shows insufficiency, inefficiency, and inconsistency' that will ultimately be a 'major barrier to successful industry-wide electrification'.

Addison Lee, London's largest private hire and taxi company, has said it will move away from combustion engine cars from this year, with plans to have a fleet of 4,000 electric vehicles providing transport services across the capital.

The transition, which will be completed seven years before the ban on sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the UK, is estimated to eventually remove 20,000 tonnes of CO2 from London’s roads each year and contribute to wider efforts to improve air pollution levels.

The first phase of this process began on Monday 22 November, with 100 VW ID.4s added to the fleet.

The version of VW's all-electric SUV used by Addison Lee is the larger 77kWh model, which has a maximum range of 322 miles, takes around seven and a half hours to fully charge from an AC three-phase 11 kW charge point, though a rapid device will take capacity from five per cent to 80 per cent in just 38 minutes.

However, just two weeks into using EVs in London, its drivers have reported 'key issues' with the charging network in the capital that threatens to derail appetite for the public and other businesses to ditch combustion-engine motors and make the switch to EVs.

According to a survey of its drivers using them, 93 per cent have not found rapid charging through the public network to be an easy process.

Its employees revealed that rapid chargers are often found to be broken or damaged (57 per cent), while over a third (37 per cent) said it takes them over 30 minutes to locate a rapid charger.
Our experience of our EV rollout so far has highlighted the huge infrastructure challenge we face as a city
Liam Griffin, Addison Lee CEO

It says the public network of devices will be relied upon by all private hire and taxi firms and well as normal drivers across the industry, though with just 600 rapid chargers currently in place the infrastructure is not up to scratch.

Transport for London has estimated that London will need almost 4,000 rapid EV charging points by 2030, though previous independent research shows that if London’s private hire vehicle and taxi fleets shift to full EVs then approximately 8,500 rapid chargers are required in the capital.

The Addison Lee report adds fuel to the calls for the nation's charging infrastructure to receive a surge in growth.

Earlier this month, the Society of Motoring Manufacturers and Traders stated that installations of public charging points is far behind the sale of electric vehicles, with only one device installed for every 52 EVs registered in 2021.

It says these early indications suggest there will be huge challenges for private hire and taxi firms looking to follow in its footsteps by moving to fully-electric fleets, as well as limit their attractiveness to members of the public currently considering to buy a battery-powered car.

The business says it is willing to share its data and learnings from its transition to help tackle the varying infrastructure challenges its drivers are facing.

Addison Lee’s CEO, Liam Griffin, said: 'By pledging to electrify by 2023 we are playing our part in reducing carbon emissions and improving air quality in the capital. But our commitment is not enough.

'To meet London’s 2030 net zero carbon target, every fleet operating in London needs to transition to electric as quickly as possible.

'To achieve this requires urgent investment in London’s public charging network. Our experience of our EV rollout so far has highlighted the huge infrastructure challenge we face as a city.

'Unless we can work together to fix this, we will never reduce carbon emissions to an acceptable level in the capital.'

[The full article is a lot longer than that above, but the rest of it is about the EV car market more generally. Worth a read if anyone is particularly interested, but don't have nightmares...]


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:37 pm 
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I'm not convinced this has come as a great shock to AL. If it has then they need new management.

The change over from petrol/diesel to electric isn't going to happen overnight. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:16 pm 
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Not so sure about whether AL would have fully anticipated the difficulties.

Management probably little better than the councillors and bureaucrats who decide these things at the local level - too busy with PR, politicking and virtue signalling to appreciate the practicalities of *driving* an EV with the current infrastructure.

Of course, these problems don't directly affect councillors and public sector officials, but they may backfire on Addy Lee management, hence the strength of the language used in yesterday's piece after just a fortnight :-o


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