a interesting question
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinb ... =765992006
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| Author: | chipper [ Fri May 26, 2006 11:09 am ] |
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a interesting question http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinb ... =765992006
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri May 26, 2006 5:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Edinburgh taxi cabs |
chipper wrote:
I have given my un-biased view. 
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| Author: | GBC [ Fri May 26, 2006 9:35 pm ] |
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chipper wrote:
The drivers in Dalkeith seem to be more than content with their purchases, I can't see any reason why the Edinburgh drivers would be any different? |
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| Author: | chipper [ Mon May 29, 2006 12:50 pm ] |
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http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index ... =769572006 |
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| Author: | chipper [ Mon May 29, 2006 1:18 pm ] |
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http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index ... =769572006 |
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| Author: | Skull [ Mon May 29, 2006 5:12 pm ] |
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http://www.fastblacks.com/choice.htm Have a wee look it's worth a laugh if nothing else 
They should just put a big sign up WE DON'T WANT CHANGE, ANY CHANGE
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon May 29, 2006 5:41 pm ] |
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Skull wrote: http://www.fastblacks.com/choice.htm
They should just put a big sign up WE DON'T WANT CHANGE, ANY CHANGE Perhaps they should say that although they don't want the E7, they don't want others given the option. 
But I bet once the E7 is allowed many will buy one rather than the £30,000 TX.
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| Author: | JD [ Mon May 29, 2006 6:25 pm ] |
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Skull wrote: http://www.fastblacks.com/choice.htm
Have a wee look it's worth a laugh if nothing else They should just put a big sign up WE DON'T WANT CHANGE, ANY CHANGE Being a person who believes in freedom of choice I find it hard to agree with anyone who seeks to deny others the freedom of the right to choose what is in their own best interest. If the decision was left to Mr Gladstone there is no doubt he would conclude that his preference overrides that of any other, even though his sole belief is based on the fact that one vehicle can out-perform another when performing a U turn? We know that LTI has a very strong lobby in the Taxi Trade but do we really need drivers telling other drivers what they can and cannot do? Personally I can understand the misgivings in the E7 but it doesn't really concern me because I may not be the person buying the vehicle. What does concern me is the fact that every owner should have the right to choose which vehicle they buy? Mr Gladstone and others wish to deprive owners of that right even though it is no business of theirs? If he or they think it is their business then perhaps they can tell us the reasons why? Those who believe in freedom of choice should act responsibly and If they wish to continue supporting and driving LTI vehicles then all well and good. It is not however up to them to tell others what they can or cannot drive, just because they themselves don't like the alternatives. Regards JD |
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| Author: | stu [ Mon May 29, 2006 8:54 pm ] |
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JD wrote: Skull wrote: http://www.fastblacks.com/choice.htm Have a wee look it's worth a laugh if nothing else They should just put a big sign up WE DON'T WANT CHANGE, ANY CHANGE Being a person who believes in freedom of choice I find it hard to agree with anyone who seeks to deny others the freedom of the right to choose what is in their own best interest. If the decision was left to Mr Gladstone there is no doubt he would conclude that his preference overrides that of any other, even though his sole belief is based on the fact that one vehicle can out-perform another when performing a U turn? We know that LTI has a very strong lobby in the Taxi Trade but do we really need drivers telling other drivers what they can and cannot do? Personally I can understand the misgivings in the E7 but it doesn't really concern me because I may not be the person buying the vehicle. What does concern me is the fact that every owner should have the right to choose which vehicle they buy? Mr Gladstone and others wish to deprive owners of that right even though it is no business of theirs? If he or they think it is their business then perhaps they can tell us the reasons why? Those who believe in freedom of choice should act responsibly and If they wish to continue supporting and driving LTI vehicles then all well and good. It is not however up to them to tell others what they can or cannot drive, just because they themselves don't like the alternatives. Regards JD Nihilism? |
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| Author: | JD [ Mon May 29, 2006 9:10 pm ] |
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stu wrote: Nihilism?
Relevance? |
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| Author: | Skull [ Mon May 29, 2006 9:14 pm ] |
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Looks like a done deal to me 
http://cpol.edinburgh.gov.uk/getdoc_ext.asp?DocId=83358 Stu Wrote: Nihilism
Give us your thoughts Stu, how does having a choice become nihilism?
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| Author: | Guest [ Mon May 29, 2006 10:12 pm ] |
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as ive said a zsillion times on here the E7 is fine. not the dogs but fine. one thing that will happen if edinburgh get the E7 is that LTIs service and warrenty will improve no end. and the price/deals will be far better. i think its called competition. only mugs will fight that. 
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| Author: | Skull [ Mon May 29, 2006 10:17 pm ] |
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Quote: only mugs will fight that. [/quote] Edinburgh's full of them
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| Author: | TDO [ Mon May 29, 2006 10:25 pm ] |
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JD wrote: Those who believe in freedom of choice should act responsibly and If they wish to continue supporting and driving LTI vehicles then all well and good. It is not however up to them to tell others what they can or cannot drive, just because they themselves don't like the alternatives. I suspect it's less about choice of vehicle per se than maintaining the status quo/fear of change and how that would impact on the plate cartel - ie some kind of group behaviour thingy that stu can probably provide a quote about. Of course, linking vehicle choice with the plate issue may not be necessarly explicit and actively thought about, instead it might be tacit and existing only in the subconscious. But it essentially all comes down to cartel/cartel-like behaviour. |
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| Author: | stu [ Tue May 30, 2006 1:51 am ] |
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TDO wrote: JD wrote: Those who believe in freedom of choice should act responsibly and If they wish to continue supporting and driving LTI vehicles then all well and good. It is not however up to them to tell others what they can or cannot drive, just because they themselves don't like the alternatives. I suspect it's less about choice of vehicle per se than maintaining the status quo/fear of change and how that would impact on the plate cartel - ie some kind of group behaviour thingy that stu can probably provide a quote about. Of course, linking vehicle choice with the plate issue may not be necessarly explicit and actively thought about, instead it might be tacit and existing only in the subconscious. But it essentially all comes down to cartel/cartel-like behaviour. Symptoms of Groupthink Rationalization: This is when team members convince themselves that despite evidence to the contrary, the decision or alternative being presented is the best one. “Those other people don’t agree with us because they haven’t researched the problem as extensively as we have.” Peer Pressure: When a team member expresses an opposing opinion or questions the rationale behind a decision, the rest of the team members work together to pressure or penalize that person into compliance. “Well if you really feel that we’re making a mistake you can always leave the team.” Complacency: After a few successes, the group begins to feel like any decision they make is the right one because there is no disagreement from any source. “Our track record speaks for itself. We are unstoppable!” Moral High Ground: Each member of the group views him or herself as moral: The combination of moral minds is therefore thought not to be likely to make a poor or immoral decision. When morality is used as a basis for decision-making, the pressure to conform is even greater because no individual wants to be perceived as immoral. “We all know what is right and wrong, and this is definitely right.” Stereotyping: As the group becomes more uniform in their views, they begin to see outsiders as possessing a different and inferior set of morals and characteristics from themselves. These perceived negative characteristics are then used to discredit the opposition. “Lawyers will find any excuse to argue, even when the facts are clearly against them.” Censorship: Members censor their opinions in order to conform. “If everyone else agrees then my thoughts to the contrary must be wrong.” Information that is gathered is censored so that it also conforms to, or supports the chosen decision or alternative. “Don’t listen to that nonsense, they don’t have a clue about what is really going on.” Illusion of Unanimity: Because no one speaks out, everyone in the group feels the group’s decision is unanimous. This is what feeds the Groupthink and causes it to spiral out of control. “I see we all agree so it’s decided then.” Nae problem Dusty
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