Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:23 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 6:33 am
Posts: 9461
Wasn't going to bother with this yesterday, but charging EVs (at least at public charging points) is a lot more expensive than I thought. Or at least it's getting that way :?


Dundee visitors and taxi drivers to pay 66% more as electric car charging rates rocket

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/busines ... -charging/

Charging an electric vehicle in Dundee will become 66% more expensive for some city visitors and businesses from the start of February.

Council bosses are increasing the charge from 15p per kWh to 25p per kWh for the city’s rapid chargers. That is in addition to the 38p connection charge.

The rate for slower chargers will rise to 20p per kWh – an uplift of around a third.

The changes make Dundee the most expensive part of Tayside and Fife, per kWh, for those visitors and business users who opt to use the city’s rapid charging facilities.

Graeme Stephen is chairman of the Dundee Taxi Association. He warned the increase could undermine the case for electric taxis in the city.

Image
Image: DC Thomson Media

He said: “Our vehicles are expensive, but you can run them a little bit cheaper. If you keep putting the price up and up then they are not going to be viable.”

Dundee currently enjoys a largely positive reputation among electric vehicle (EV) drivers.

With 253 charging points, EV drivers have access to one of the highest number of chargers, per head of population, of all Scottish local authority areas.

What are Dundee’s new electric car charging rates?

Dundee transport chiefs have introduced two new tariffs: 20 per kWh for “fast chargers” and 25p per kWh for the fastest “rapid” machines.

City residents can take advantage of a discounted rate of 15p per kWh to access the slower chargers. That discounted rate begins in April this year.

Dundee transport chiefs have also targeted EV drivers who block in demand charging stations.

These drivers will now pay a £10 overstay penalty charge if charge time exceeds 70 minutes on a rapid charger, or 190 minutes on a fast charger.

A Dundee City Council spokesman said the local authority had made the move in response to rising energy costs.

He said: “Dundee is recognised world-wide as a leading city in the introduction and support of electric vehicles.”

He said they were introducing the two rates to manage availability and accommodate the higher cost of providing rapid chargers.

“Despite the increases it still costs less to charge an EV in Dundee than the average Scottish local authority cost.”

How does Dundee compare to neighbouring councils?

Charging costs currently vary across Tayside and Fife.

Angus Council scrapped free charging in October last year and introduced a 23p per kWh charge.

In Fife, the rate is 15p/kWh but with £1.60 connection charge per session.

Image
Image: DC Thomson Media

EV charging remains free in Perth and Kinross at the moment. Although motorists must pay the usual parking fee.

Taxi driver Graeme Stephen said he had been expecting an increase but was surprised by the amount.

He said taxi drivers only used the faster, rapid chargers while on shift.

“It’s steep. They say the price of fuel is rising, but it’s not going up 66%.”

Retired lawyer and Forfar EV driver Mike Devine said the Dundee electric car charging rate was so low previously that is was “inevitable” that it would have to rise.

“Dundee have been bearing the cost of this for quite a long time.”

Image
Image: DC Thomson Media

He said he welcomed moves to ensure local residents could take advantage of a reduced rate.

“My bugbear is still that there is a two tier system for charging with those who are able to charge at home paying as little as 5p per kWh.

“There is increasing recognition that is not a good thing. But no one seems able to do anything about it.”

From April 1, car parking rates for EVs in all Dundee car parks will revert to the normal rate.

The charging bay overstay fee will not apply in Dundee’s multi-storey car parks as transport chiefs believe there is enough capacity to accommodate longer visits.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 6:33 am
Posts: 9461
Had a quick look at some stats yesterday, and at the rapid charging prices in Dundee it would cost around £7 for 100 miles?? :-o

Anyway, didn't think the DTA's Mr Stephen would have an EV, because he's had a plate for years, and think it's just new PH plates and transferred HC plates that are required to present an EV??

So I'm assuming he can still plate a petrol or diesel, so not sure why he'd plate an EV at this stage, but maybe I'm missing something :?

Funny thing, too, I'm sure he had an FSO Polonez once upon a time :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 49467
Location: 1066 Country
Quote:
Had a quick look at some stats yesterday, and at the rapid charging prices in Dundee it would cost around £7 for 100 miles?? :-o

I get on average, mainly but not exclusively around the city, 100 miles for £14.

So if I did 35,000 a year, the saving on having an electric vehicle would only be £2,450.

It would take a lot of £2,450's to get to £60,000.

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:52 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 6:33 am
Posts: 9461
Retired lawyer and EV owner from Forfar wrote:
“My bugbear is still that there is a two tier system for charging with those who are able to charge at home paying as little as 5p per kWh."

How does this work with a home charging point, then?

Think I'm paying around 20p per kWh for my mains electricity, which I'm assuming is what it would cost to charge an EV from a home charging point.

So where does this chap get his 5p/kWh figure from?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:35 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:27 pm
Posts: 19033
Some suppliers will offer a cheaper rate for ev charging at certain times. I know my son gets 4 or 5 hours overnight at a cheap rate. Some just use economy 7 tariffs to charge up at night.

_________________
Grandad,
To support my charity text MAYORWALK to 70085 to donate £5


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:20 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:24 pm
Posts: 3
What happens in Dundee is.
A person who owns a plate can apply for a corporate plate. But the terms are he must surrender his diesel or petrol vehicle and go full electric vehicle.
Basically it is a loop hole to buy and sell your plate.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 39 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group