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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:02 pm 
A taxi firm is running private hire cars in Nottingham without a licence, claiming the city council does not have the correct laws in place to make them apply for one. The council says they are wrong and is looking to prosecute. But for now, as JAMES SMITH reports, unlicensed taxis are being allowed to operate in the city

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The business is listed in the Yellow Pages at its previous address in West Bridgford. Anyone can dial their number and book a cab.

But when they do, they are booking a car from a company that has no operator's licence, which will have a driver without a badge.

Abbey Cabs has been running like this since August last year, and continues openly to do so.

The owner, Mohammed Taj, says he told Nottingham City Council he was opening without a licence. But months later he has not been shut down.

So why is he running what is an apparently illegal business?

He claims it isn't illegal, because he believes there is a flaw in the city council's licensing laws.

"I told the council I was willing to come above board if they could show me the law," he said. "But they haven't done."

His advisor Abdul Rashid told the Post he had delved into the history of the city's taxi licensing laws dating back to 1847, and is convinced errors have been made.

"I challenged the council and said 'If you think I'm wrong, then come down and prosecute'," said Mr Rashid, of Annesley Grove.

"I wrote to the council about six months ago and told them to come to the office with a piece of paper in their hand showing the resolution, but otherwise don't bother."

Both men claim there are wider repercussions for the council.

"None of the taxi drivers in the city need to have a licence," explained Mr Rashid.

The council denies the claims outright and is confident its laws are in place.

A council spokeswoman said: "We are satisfied that the law is perfectly correctly applied.

"We have looked through the legislation very carefully and there are no grounds for their query."

And, as Mr Taj has no licence, he is not subject to the regulations governing the taxi trade.

So he says he is free to employ anyone as a driver - even a criminal - provided they have a full driver's licence.

He says he does make criminal background checks on drivers, however.

"I check their driving licence is up to date, get them to fill in a form and take a copy of their driving licence. I take these to the police for a police check," said Mr Taj.

"If there is something bad then I would not employ them as it affects my company, but I would take them on until I get the police check back."

Abbey Cabs was first set up by different owners in West Bridgford in 2000, but after two years failed to secure planning permission for its premises.

The previous owner failed to renew his operator's licence and it was closed down.

The firm was then taken on by Mr Taj, and he was taken to court by Rushcliffe Borough Council for running the company without an operators' licence, although the case was never concluded.

Abbey relocated to Alfreton Road, in Radford, in August last year.

Mr Taj claims his firm takes up to 2,000 calls a week and runs 20 cars. He says his vehicles are insured and have MOT certificates.

"I've been driving with no badge, no plate, nothing," he added.

Abbey Cabs' insurance company, GMI Insurance Services of London, say they would pay out regardless of whether the firm is licensed or not - only a drivers' licence is needed.

When the Post first contacted Nottingham City Council's licensing manager, Tim Coulson, three weeks ago, he said his department had investigating the firm.

But he said there had been difficulties gathering evidence.

"We are aware that somebody has opened up on Alfreton Road and believe we know who it is," he said.

"In that time, we have had the premises under observation and have been waiting for the go ahead from legal services in terms of the collection of evidence."

"We have been down to the site many times of the day and evening and found the premises either closed or nobody working there. We have also tried test bookings.

"We will be taking action against them if it is illegal, as it appears to be. We want to protect the safety of the public and other road users."

The situation has drawn scorn from the taxi trade, both for the firm operating without a licence and the length of time taken by the council to respond.

Bryan Roland, general secretary of the National Private Hire Association, told the Post he would have acted immediately.

"If the council applied immediately, they could probably shut the company down tomorrow," he said.

"The council should take immediate steps to close this."

His views were echoed by Norman Deegan, chairman of the National Taxi Association, based in Carlisle.

"If this firm has been running for that period without a licence, it is quite appalling and quite frightening. The unlicensed operation of taxis does go on, but I don't know of anything quite as blatant.

"The council could have taken an injunction and I'm appalled that it has taken so long after being brought to the attention of the council."

A council spokeswoman said this route had been considered, but they had been advised to seek a prosecution first.

"It may seem surprising to a lay man," she said, "but the law is very complicated and it's actually quite difficult to take out an injunction in this matter."

She added that, since the Post first contacted them, they had concluded their investigation. Mr Rashid is due to appear in front of Nottingham Magistrates on April 4 charged with operating a vehicle without a licence. However, there are no prosecutions against Mr Taj or Abbey Cabs.

She added: "We will take stock when this prosecution is concluded and decide on the next step."

A solicitor who specialises in taxi licensing law and has written a book on the subject said he could understand their caution. James Button, of James Button and Co solicitors, said: "They have conducted their investigation and decided it is in the public interest to prosecute.

"The council can seek an injunction, but it can be difficult to persuade courts to grant them."

A spokesman for Notts police said they had no recorded incidents involving Abbey Cabs.




ABBEY CABS - WHAT THEY ARE CLAIMING?

Licensing taxis is covered by several acts of parliament dating back over 150 years.

Some legislation refers only to Hackney carriages (black cabs), which can be hailed on the street. Others refer to private hire vehicles, which can only be pre-ordered either by phone or from a taxi firm's office.

The claim being made by the owners of Abbey Cabs relates to the Local Government Act of 1972, which came into force in 1974.

Under part of the Act - schedule 14, section 25 - local authorities were asked to pass a new resolution either applying or disapplying regulations originally set out in the 19th Century, which first covered Hackney carriages in England and Wales.

This should have been ratified by the Secretary of State, but Mr Rashid and Mr Taj claim it was never done.

They claim this means when the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 was introduced - the first Act ever to refer to private-hire taxis (which they run) rather than Hackney Carriages -this could not apply in Nottingham.

The 1976 Act is an 'adoptive act' changing the 1972 Act. They claim that if the 1972 act was never properly passed, the 1976 one cannot be law either.

Nottingham City Council has countered by saying that Section 15 of the 1985 Transport Act reapplied the provisions of the 1847 act covering Hackney carriages and that it had properly adopted the 1976 Act.

Taxi law expert James Button, of James Button and Co. solicitors, said: "I don't think Abbey Cabs have got a case. The 1972 Act applied Hackney carriage licensing to anywhere that was a county borough before 1974.

"Nottingham was and, accordingly, taxi licensing continued past 1974 without the need to pass a resolution.

"Therefore the adoption of the 1976 Act was proper, therefore I think they are operating illegally."

Bryan Roland, general secretary of the National Private Hire Association, said he has known similar situations. "What these men are saying is that there may be a flaw in the council's laws," he said.

"But even if they were right and, for example, the council hadn't properly advertised the law change in the 1970s and said, 'Mea culpa, we've got it wrong' they could redress it by advertising the laws in the paper and the operation would have two weeks left to trade. If these men feel they have found a loophole, then I would issue a summons tomorrow and let them go to court and try to prove it.

"I don't think they can - there's a huge amount of case law that says what they are doing is illegal."

National Taxi Association chairman Norman Deegan said that provided the council had properly adopted the 1976 Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act covering private hire vehicles, then all operations offering the services of a vehicle and driver would need to be licensed.

"If they have found a loophole and are correct, they are the first in the country to have done so," he said.

An operator's licence costs around £500 a year for each car run by a firm in the city. If it is found to be operating illegally, the firm can be fined £1,000 for each car.

Mmm the same Council who took Pats badge off him a few years ago for giving a thief a clip round the ear for nicking out of a petrol station.


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Outrageous story

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Madness, absolute madness. :sad:

What we need is new proper legislation.

All it's needs to say is any vehicle with less than 9 seats needs a HC or PH license, driven by a HC or PH driver, if they gain in any way through taking someone from A to B.

If it's a PH, then it also needs an ops license, a national one would be good.

Quite simple really. :wink:

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You think that you have heard everything and are unshockable, and then you read something like this.

I have highlighted some choice comments. :sad: :sad:


The boss of an unlicensed taxi firm today told the Evening Post passengers could be at risk in his cars.

The business has been running since August but Nottingham City Council, which has known about the situation for months, has not shut it down.

Mohammed Taj, who owns Abbey Cabs in Alfreton Road, admitted: "Anyone could come in here, a rapist or a murderer or whatever, with a full driving licence and I will give them a job - it's not my problem.

"Effectively, anyone could walk in here straight from prison.

"Of course there is a risk to the public, but I have got to think about my family."
Mr Taj said he carries out background checks on drivers but they are allowed to work before the results are back.

He says he does not need a licence because of a flaw in taxi-licensing regulations. The council disputes this.

Norman Deegan, National Taxi Association chairman, said: "The council could have taken out an injunction and I'm appalled it has taken so long after being brought to its attention."

A council spokeswoman said: "It may seem surprising to a layman, but the law is very complicated and it's actually quite difficult to take out an injunction in this matter."

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A council spokeswoman said: "It may seem surprising to a layman, but the law is very complicated and it's actually quite difficult to take out an injunction in this matter."



Agree with you sussex, but the response of the LA is unbelievable.

I think Nidge pointed out how they felt slightly differently about their actual licensee's.

It is also a point worth noting that Nottingham City Council went to extrordinary lengths in the 1980's to introduce a WAV policy for their hacks, seem to remember them not being too shy about obtaining injunctions and barristers advice back then!

Double standards, and a couldnt give a toss attitude, they want brought over the coals for it. As for the guys in question, they are in my opinion merely highlighting the ineptitude of the LA. But castrate them anyway.

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We had a firm get fined £5,000 on Friday for doing unlicensed airport work.

They used to be called gatwick 28, but know they are called gatwick 31. Thats inflation for you.

The LO did a sting on them. Got them bang to rights. Perhaps Nottingham can borrow a couple of ours.


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The mercenaries involved here who advanced to the perimeters of hire and reward, I would like to remind you of something. I will mention something that will make the picture clear for you and help you to understand what took place at Nottingham. Most of you probably saw the American movie "Wag the Dog". I hope you remember it. Some of their acts that took place at dawn yesterday and today are similar to what happened in "Wag the Dog". If we succeed in keeping them isolated on the island that is Nottingham, and we are determined to do so, we might let them taste a second mini Dien Bien Phu tonight. The European journalists remember it well. Our estimates are that none of them will come out unjailed unless they surrender to our will quickly. They are completely surrounded now.

These men are criminals, and we should see
that they are brought to trial. They are superpower of villains. They are superpower of Al Capone.I can assure you that those villains will recognize, will discover in appropriate time in the future how stupid they are and how they are pretending things which have never taken place.

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Latest on this pratt. :sad:

UNLICENSED TAXI FIRM STILL RUNNING

Taxi boss Abdul Rashid has vowed to keep his unlicensed firm running, despite being fined in court. Rashid is co-owner of Abbey Cabs in Alfreton Road, Nottingham.

He was punished for operating without a licence after city magistrates rejected claims he does not need one because Nottingham City Council has failed to apply taxi law properly.

But he is appealing and says the firm will continue to operate until that is heard. Rashid, 60, of Annesley Grove, Nottingham, said: "The council has taken no injunction to stop us. I am not going to apply for a licence, because we strongly believe that there's no requirement to have one."

The Evening Post revealed the firm was unlicensed six months ago. The city council said then it was difficult to get an injunction to close it. Its taxi licensing department will decide next week what to do now. Spokesman Steve Dowling said the council was concerned about public safety.

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And from the Evening Post's Opinion

TAXI FIRM MUST OBEY LAWS AND GET A LICENCE

The ridiculous stand-off between a taxi firm and Nottingham City Council looks as if it will continue for months. Abbey Cabs has been found guilty of operating without a licence, but an appeal to Nottingham Crown Court means the issue is far from over.

The ultimate legal rights and wrongs of the case are a matter for lawyers to pick over. But given the potential cost of a protracted legal battle, you wonder why the firm does not adopt the comparatively straightforward and potentially much cheaper course of complying with licensing regulations.

After all, why is it so reluctant to associate itself with what in effect is a quality standard? The city council should respond robustly. The licensing system is there to protect the public. It includes the requirement that both cars and drivers be checked.

Earlier this year, Abbey Cabs management said they would be asking for checks on their drivers, but they would be allowed to drive for the firm pending the results. That is against the spirit of the licensing regulations - and reason enough for the council to act.

The appeal will be heard in due course - and it would be in the public interest for the council to seek injunctions to stop Abbey Cabs trading until the outcome is known.

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This case has been highlighted in another thread which I can't locate at the moment so I'll put it in here. The law finally caught up with Mr Rashid.
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Nottingham Evening Post

February 25, 2006 Saturday

Taxi pirate is closed down

A Pirate taxi firm must cease business immediately after a blow in its long legal battle to operate without a licence.

A High Court judge has granted Nottingham City Council an interim injunction against Abbey Cabs, owned by Abdul Rashid and Taj Mohammed.

The two men claim they do not need a licence because the council failed to properly ratify a law on taxi regulation in 1976.

But last year they received criminal convictions for carrying on the firm without a licence, and Judge Frances Kirkham warned them they face prison if they breach this latest order, served in Birmingham.

Mr Rashid and Mr Taj say the city council should have had its taxi regulation powers ratified by a Secretary of State, and failed to do so. But the council says the 1976 rules

automatically applied anywhere that was a county borough before 1974 - as Nottingham was.

Mohammed Zaman, representing the council, said the injunction order had been specially worded to stop the pair operating another taxi firm through other people.

"I remind both of you of the consequences. You really need to appreciate the seriousness of this," he said.

"It's not a question of coming back here for another hearing, it's contempt of court."

Granting the injunction, Judge Frances Kirkham warned Mr Rashid and Mr Taj they faced "serious consequences" for failing to abide with the order.

"It is my conclusion the court should grant this application for an interim injunction," she said. "It's a very important order, and one you must obey. It prohibits you from operating your business.

"If you do, the city council can bring you back to court and punish you for contempt of court. The court then has the power to imprison you, fine you, or seize your assets."

Mr Rashid replied: "We will abide by the order, there's no question of that."

Judge Kirkham also refused an appeal against the ruling.

"There's no real prospect of you succeeding, and I can see no other reason for the appeal to be granted," she said.

In relation to their original crown court case last August, the pair have already lodged an appeal for a judicial review at the High Court.

Following the ruling, Mr Taj said Abbey Cabs had ceased its business.

"We don't have any choice," he said.
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JD wrote:
"We don't have any choice," he said.

Oh yes you do, it's called going and getting licensed first. :wink:

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Oh well, at least you know that if you run an illegal firm then it'll take at least a year before they close you down :?

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