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Author:	Sussex [ Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:22 pm ]
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Go-slow convoy as Hereford taxi drivers oppose new rules https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-h ... r-60620988 A go-slow convoy of taxis has travelled in Hereford before a petition opposing new rules was given to a council. About 50 protesters went to the site of a meeting, with drivers saying plans to ban older vehicles and ask them to take a knowledge test will put them out of business. More than 300 licences were on the petition handed in on Friday. Herefordshire Council said plans would improve air quality and the service being offered to customers. Up to 40 taxis were in the convoy from Tesco, at Belmont, to the Three Counties Hotel in the area before the petition was given to the chairman of the authority, Sebastian Bowen, ahead of a full council meeting at the hotel. Protesters also spoke to council leader David Hitchiner. The Hereford Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Taxi Association chairman, John Jones, said: "The conditions they're trying to bring in will decimate the taxi trade. "We have nothing wrong in bringing a condition in for age on vehicles, but not overnight." Taxi driver Wayne Griffiths said he lived in a "predominantly rural" region, adding: "I do a lot of long jobs and I just couldn't make an electric vehicle, with how I operate, work. "So I personally need a diesel, but if you give me time in the future I'll be able to move over to electric." Mr Griffiths stated the "knowledge test thing" was "a bit ridiculous", saying he mainly worked in Hereford and knew most of the roads there, but did not know "every road within the county". He added: "I've got Waze on my phone, I've got TomTom, my car's got built-in sat-nav and [there's] my PDA... Not four of those are gonna go down instantly."

Author:	Chris the Fish [ Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:48 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Not four of those are gonna go down instantly." But if the Yanks were to turn off the Satellites - they will.

Author:	StuartW [ Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:29 pm ]
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Must be some knowledge test if it's going to put the vast majority of experienced drivers off the road But the cynic in me thinks it's actually about proprietors and circuits worrying about the supply of 'new blood' to the trade Not that I'm the cynical type, you'll understand

Author:	edders23 [ Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:16 pm ]
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Quote: Not that I'm the cynical type, you'll understand probably where you're going wrong

Author:	edders23 [ Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:18 pm ]
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Quote: "We have nothing wrong in bringing a condition in for age on vehicles, but not overnight." surely that's how it works you have a date when the new rules start

Author:	edders23 [ Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:19 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote: Sussex wrote: Not four of those are gonna go down instantly." But if the Yanks were to turn off the Satellites - they will. Don't you mean if Putin knocks out the American satellites

Author:	Chris the Fish [ Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:03 am ]
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Russians (and everyone else) use the US SatNav Satellites. The Yanks could just turn them all off, or select parts of the Earth not to get coverage.

Author:	StuartW [ Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:16 pm ]
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A bit more evidence here that it's as much about 'new blood' than existing drivers Herefordshire taxi drivers gear up for further protest over licensing changes https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/n ... er-6763551 Petition pushes Herefordshire Council into a new round of talks over proposed regulation. Taxi drivers say Herefordshire Council is on a one-way journey to wiping out their trade in the county. They want a new round of consultation over proposed taxi regulation changes and gearing up for further protests to get it. The anger at the present “one-way” consultation process went public with a rally in Hereford last Friday that saw a petition presented at a full council meeting. Hereford Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Association chairman John Jones said: “We want a meeting between the association and licensing officers, but we need councillors to sit in so they can hear the sense that’s being talked.” The Association fears around 80% of the county's drivers will leave the trade if the council proceeds with its present plans for a regulatory overhaul. That overhaul ranges from the way drivers and vehicles are licensed to have a knowledge-style test of the county’s routes and setting tight age limits on vehicles. A final policy recommendation on the changes will be put to full council in May. A consultation took place late last year on the changes that the association says didn't fully engage with driver concerns. Branding the present process "one way", the association is calling for councillors to be part of a new consultation on driver terms. At Friday's full council, the driver petition was passed to Coun Ange Tyler, cabinet member for regulatory services. She told the council meeting: “We are going through the results of the consultation, and I am listening to all the concerns being made by the taxi trade." The association has previously said taxi waits already topping two hours or more could get even longer if new rules refused licences to cabs first registered or manufactured more than five years ago, for environmental reasons. Vehicles over two years old would meanwhile have to meet or exceed specified emission standards, while more recent cars would have to meet the most stringent standards. On that basis, said Mr Jones, the new rules may mean have of the county's current cab fleet would need replacing. “The new rules will decimate the taxi trade, there is already an acute shortage of taxi drivers, leading to people having to wait for two hours or more," said Mr Jones. This has meant people missing hospital appointments, or women having to walk home unaccompanied late at night, he said. Views are currently being sought on a new taxi policy for the county drafted for the council by specialist solicitor James Button. This proposes refusing to grant licences from next April to cars that were first registered or manufactured more than five years ago, for environmental reasons. Vehicles over two years old would meanwhile have to meet or exceed “Euro 5” emission standards, while more recent cars would have to meet the most stringent Euro 6 standards. The association estimates about 50% of the county's present taxi fleet is over 10 years old and would need replacing. The county has already seen a significant fall in taxi driver numbers due to rising costs and an administration the association brands "overbearing". Fewer drivers are coming through given the prohibitive and lengthy nature nature of the licence application process, the association says.

Author:	Cerberus [ Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:14 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote: Sussex wrote: Not four of those are gonna go down instantly." But if the Yanks were to turn off the Satellites - they will. There are a few different 'GPS' systems. Global GPS - USA GLONASS - Russia Galileo - EU BeiDou/COMPASS - China Regional QZSS - Japan IRNSS/NacIC - India - Covers India obviously, east coast of Africa to West coast of Australia and Asia Sat at my desk my phone is currently showing that it can see 9 GPS. 9 GLONASS and 3 BeiDou. I've checked in the past and the GPS chip on my phone cannot receive Galileo signals. When initially launched GPS, the US military had a higher accuracy availability than civilian users. That option was turned of years ago, so everyone gets the full accuracy now.

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